Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Somebody may not be ready for a reality check. Maybe all of Belgium.

Would depend on what that reality turns out to be. Maybe a lot of other people might not be ready instead ;-)

I guess we'd know a bit more after a decent showing at TA/PN/TDS/DL/... but on the other hand, it doesn't mean all that much either, when it comes to GT aspirations. Don't forget, Schachmann won PN. McNulty came close to winning Itzulia (until his breakdown), Porte, Fuglsang and Martinez are the last 3 winners of the Dauphiné. If Evenepoel matches his 2020 form, i think people in need of fearing a reality check based on results in those races might not be the Evenepoel faithfuls. The problem is that those races don't necessarily mean much when it comes to winning a GT.

 

[Open Horizon]

Would depend on what that reality turns out to be. Maybe a lot of other people might not be ready instead ;-)

I guess we'd know a bit more after a decent showing at TA/PN/TDS/DL/... but on the other hand, it doesn't mean all that much either, when it comes to GT aspirations. Don't forget, Schachmann won PN. McNulty came close to winning Itzulia (until his breakdown), Porte, Fuglsang and Martinez are the last 3 winners of the Dauphiné. If Evenepoel matches his 2020 form, i think people in need of fearing a reality check based on results in those races might not be the Evenepoel faithfuls. The problem is that those races don't necessarily mean much when it comes to winning a GT.

Evenepoel may triumph, flop or crash in Tirreno or Paris-Nice, but at least promise us after those races you'll stop discussing the 2020 Vuelta a Burgos

 

[Oldermanish]

Is Specialized launching a gravel bike?

Ridden aggressively and with improper skills, I'm advised all Specialized competition bikes are gravel bikes. Then guardrail bikes. Then ravine randonneuring bikes.
Cervelo, Pignarello, Canyon and most WT bike suppliers admit their models have the same capabilities.

 

[Sciatic]

Ridden aggressively and with improper skills, I'm advised all Specialized competition bikes are gravel bikes. Then guardrail bikes. Then ravine randonneuring bikes.
Cervelo, Pignarello, Canyon and most WT bike suppliers admit their models have the same capabilities.

Funny. Like medicines that have “off label” uses.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Evenepoel may triumph, flop or crash in Tirreno or Paris-Nice, but at least promise us after those races you'll stop discussing the 2020 Vuelta a Burgos

Burgos2020-4-life.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

So can we expect a long rolling ITT or two in next years Vuelta.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

So can we expect a long rolling ITT or two in next years Vuelta.

With an opening prologue of 70k to start off.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

With an opening prologue of 70k to start off.

This should be enough for Remco to crush those one-dimentional petite climbers for good!

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

If Remco does Vuelta I hope there is Formigal

 

[Froome]

The tour suits him far better than does the Vuelta and it's murito finishes. He seems to do his best on the long, gradual climbs

When remco did a good performance in a long climb?! zoncolan? Passo giau?!

 

[Froome]

The hype that surrounds him is totally surreal...
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They are delusional, he hasn't even proved nothing in a grand tour.
Pogacar deserve this hype, not remco. The guy with almost the same age has monuments and two tours, he could very well win more than 5 tours, but i don't see the same hype around him. Maybe, is because he is slovenian and not from belgium.
"If remco wants to win is first grand tour he should go to the giro", omg!

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

The hype that surrounds him is totally surreal...

They are delusional, he hasn't even proved nothing in a grand tour.
Pogacar deserve this hype, not remco. The guy with almost the same age has monuments and two tours, he could very well win more than 5 tours, but i don't see the same hype around him. Maybe, is because he is slovenian and not from belgium.
"If remco wants to win is first grand tour he should go to the giro", omg!
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It's not just hype; it's people complaining that there is a hype.
He's just an exciting young rider with bags of potential.

I guess in a way I just summarised the entire thread.

 

[Extinction]

Pogacar started riding when he was 11 years-old, broke out as a future potential in Austria as a junior at 16 years-old. Remco was not even riding his bike seriously at that age. This is not a verdict one way or the other, naturally, but they have had different bases going into the pro ranks. To be sure the Belgian has yet so much to prove, while the Slovenian has already demonstrated everything. Although Remco had a devestating fall, which hindered considerably his immediate progress. Let's thus wait and see.

 

[Big Doopie]

This should be enough for Remco to crush those one-dimentional petite climbers for good!

Pleeeeeeeeease. Pretty please!

 

[Big Doopie]

It's not just hype; it's people complaining that there is a hype.
He's just an exciting young rider with bags of potential.

I would argue that the “complainers” are actually much more ardent and vocal in their dislike. Kind of dominates the conversation. Lots of so-called cycling fans who appear extremely vested in that he fail.

It really seems strange to me. My guess is that these “fans” are also complaining about lack of excitement in GTs. Wouldn’t a Remco who can actually challenge Pog eventually be something that would actually be exciting for cycling in general? Or is the hate so strong?

 

[red_flanders]

They are delusional, he hasn't even proved nothing in a grand tour.
Pogacar deserve this hype, not remco. The guy with almost the same age has monuments and two tours, he could very well win more than 5 tours, but i don't see the same hype around him. Maybe, is because he is slovenian and not from belgium.
"If remco wants to win is first grand tour he should go to the giro", omg!

Yes, we should wait until he finishes mid-pack or worse in a few Grand Tours, pulls on a motorbike to get up a hill, and then does the paper boy because he can't climb. Then we'll wait for him to turn 26 or 27, magically smash 7-8 Grand Tours, and become the dominant GT rider of a generation. Definitely don't get excited about a rider who absolutely crushed everything in the juniors, went straight to the pros, won the first Classic he rode, took the European TT Championships, got 2nd in the World TT Championships, and despite a near career-ending crash has 22 professional victories by age 21. Nope, no hype warranted there.

After he suffers another major crash we should tout his comeback every time he finishes less than 30 minutes down on a flat stage. The Remco hype is delusional, but your Froome hype is rational. Makes sense.

 

[Andre]

I would argue that the “complainers” are actually much more ardent and vocal in their dislike. Kind of dominates the conversation. Lots of so-called cycling fans who appear extremely vested in that he fail.

It really seems strange to me. My guess is that these “fans” are also complaining about lack of excitement in GTs. Wouldn’t a Remco who can actually challenge Pog eventually be something that would actually be exciting for cycling in general? Or is the hate so strong?

Yes...totally agree...the haters are in full force. (whenever there is so much dislike, it usually means that they are afraid of Remco being successful) Why? I don't know. If they wish to applaud Tadej (and it is well deserved) then do so, but don't belittle Remco (no pun intended). It would be great for cycling for the Belgian to challenge Tadej. And in passing, if I may add, I alos wish he would race Le Tour instead of La Vuelta. Although if he chooses La Vuelta I really wouldn't mind so much. Vamos Remco Vamos!!!

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

When remco did a good performance in a long climb?! zoncolan? Passo giau?!

Hi there Trolly McTrollson, considering his declining form, i would indeed say his Zoncolan was rather "good". He finished 1m30 from Bernal, i hope you don't consider that "bad" especially it being his first GT and his first race in over 9 months after a severe injury.

They are delusional, he hasn't even proved nothing in a grand tour.
Pogacar deserve this hype, not remco. The guy with almost the same age has monuments and two tours, he could very well win more than 5 tours, but i don't see the same hype around him. Maybe, is because he is slovenian and not from belgium.
"If remco wants to win is first grand tour he should go to the giro", omg!

What hype does Pogacar deserve? Hype, to me, is a feeling of anticipation. Pogacar has already achieved the highest possible, so there is little anticipation of what he can do anymore.
If you want to know where the hype concerning Evenepoel came from, look at his junior results. And while you're at it, compare them to Pogacar, and you'll understand why Evenepoel got much more hype and Pogacar didn't. Pogacar was a "great" talent, like there are great talents every year in the junior and U23 ranks. Evenepoel was something nobody had ever seen.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

Yes...totally agree...the haters are in full force. (whenever there is so much dislike, it usually means that they are afraid of Remco being successful) Why? I don't know. If they wish to applaud Tadej (and it is well deserved) then do so, but don't belittle Remco (no pun intended). It would be great for cycling for the Belgian to challenge Tadej. And in passing, if I may add, I alos wish he would race Le Tour instead of La Vuelta. Although if he chooses La Vuelta I really wouldn't mind so much. Vamos Remco Vamos!!!

I think it's time to go on some other threads and troll the fanboys. Then again life is too short.

 

[houtdffan]

When remco did a good performance in a long climb?! zoncolan? Passo giau?!

Stage 6

 

[johnymax]

Stage 6

Burgos 2020 had only 5 stages.

 

[Froome]

This thread should be called remco evenepoel the next Steven kruijswijk, he's got the same explosivity of him
The guy can't even drop colbrelli in the climbs.
You bet on the wrong horse, cian uijdtbroeks will be the next belgian big thing, not remco.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

This thread should be called remco evenepoel the next Steven kruijswijk, he's got the same explosivity of him
The guy can't even drop colbrelli in the climbs.
You bet on the wrong horse, cian uijdtbroeks will be the next belgian big thing, not remco.

No, he couldn't drop Colbrelli. He did drop Pogacar though

Anyway, why are you posting here and adding to the discussion and pagecount, when you could be putting that effort towards pushing the pagecount of Pogacar's thread?

 

[Red Rick]

No, he couldn't drop Colbrelli. He did drop Pogacar though

Anyway, why are you posting here and adding to the discussion and pagecount, when you could be putting that effort towards pushing the pagecount of Pogacar's thread?

We're almost 300 pages in, how many pages is just discussing page count at this poitn?

 

[F_Cance]

Evenepoel refused to show up for Belgium's Worlds debrief, Stuyven reveals

'He still has to learn when he can and cannot say things' says Milan-San Remo champion

www.cyclingnews.com

little diva?

team manager Sven Vanthourenhout had arranged a virtual meeting five days after the event to talk things through for the best part of half an hour.

"Everyone was there, except Remco," Stuyven said. "He was aware, but didn't think it was necessary. I think that is a shame, especially because he thought it necessary to say things on TV. That stuck with some of us."