Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Logic-is-your-friend]

So, biggest favourite for the Velo d'Or now?

As it stands, yes. But still two big races to come.

 

[yaco]

Annemiek Van Vleuten should be the raging favorite.

 

[Bonimenier]

Let's now see if he can also do it in a pro race of 3 weeks and not only in a junior race where 5 out the first 7 are still eligible for the youth classification.

 

[waku waku]

Well done, great win. Hopefully the first of many GT wins.
Now, a year later and being the winner of a monument and a GT, will Belgium trust him when he attacks in the WC or will they behave like idiots again?

 

[DNP-Old]

Looking ahead, I'd like him to take a crack at the Giro (+ Vuelta, unless Glasgow produces a course that fits him like a glove) next year, rather than the Tour. There's still plenty to improve upon, and this applies to him personally as well as the team. The team as a collective were tremendous these past three weeks, but it also didn't take much to put them under pressure. On the other hand one has to be fair and say that Serry unfortunately was close to being a non-factor and the best Alaphilippe was yet to come. Furthermore, despite winning, this was still a learning process. QS and Remco are far from the finished product. The Giro is the perfect place to gather some more insight.

 

[Bolder]

Well done, very well deserved. Compared to many recent GT winners he was left alone on many occasions, had a lot to deal with including opponents with multiple cards to play, yet handled it all admirably. Found it interesting to watch. Not knocking the individuals in his team, many of whom buried themselves for him, but clearly QS has a way to go as a GC outfit. But the future looks very bright for Remco.

absolutely -- with a better team he might have been able to win with a 4-5 minute margin. Can you imagine prime Skyneos or Wout/Kuss/Roglic working for him?

 

[houtdffan]

If Remco does Giro and Vuelta instead of the tour, it needs to be with the condition that the A team does the Giro and Vuelta and the C team does the tour.

That means Alap on donkey duty in both for Remco as well as finding 1 extra climbing Dom

 

[Eeslliw]

If Remco does Giro and Vuelta instead of the tour, it needs to be with the condition that the A team does the Giro and Vuelta and the C team does the tour.

That means Alap on donkey duty in both for Remco as well as finding 1 extra climbing Dom

Lol what? Alap to Giro and Vuelta for Remco? Even Lefevere is not that crazy.

 

[BigCoward]

Very very impressed. On another forum I said he could do nothing or win by 5 mins. Without the crash I think he would have. Right now I would say If they all go TdF next yearq
VIng & Pog 40% chance each
Remco & Bernal (if he gets back) 10% each.
But I think Remco has the most improvement potential (but the shittest team in the history of grand tour contenders).

 

[houtdffan]

Lol what? Alap to Giro and Vuelta for Remco? Even Lefevere is not that crazy.

Remco has earned unconditional support via his results this year

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Annemiek Van Vleuten should be the raging favorite.

Raging because she knows she's never gonna win unless she has an expensive surgery?

 

[Black Betsy]

Remco the mighty Remco the brave
Crush the opponents in your way
By your Cda let none be saved
Live to die on that final day
Ineos amigos and covid
Will die together in the end

 

[DNP-Old]

If Remco does Giro and Vuelta instead of the tour, it needs to be with the condition that the A team does the Giro and Vuelta and the C team does the tour.

That means Alap on donkey duty in both for Remco as well as finding 1 extra climbing Dom

Luckily, given QuickStep's roster, those two things can very much go hand in hand. Remco gets the big dogs, Jakobsen or Merlier get the sprint train. Still, looking at next years roster, I'm still not satisfied. Hirt can be very hit or miss and doesn't convince me at all, but they very much need a top level domestique in there. Asgreen is exactly the type of rouleur required, but there's no Dennis or Martinez in there, who can make or break a race.

Lol what? Alap to Giro and Vuelta for Remco? Even Lefevere is not that crazy.

Well, Lefevere has always desired for Julian not to be a just a TDF casual. In fact, a possible Giro start has been long in the books:

Patrick Lefevere a également profité de cette sortie médiatique pour faire une révélation sur le calendrier 2023 du coureur français. Julian Alaphilippe (29 ans) pourrait notamment participer au Tour d'Italie l'an prochain. "Nous voulons aussi voir Julian sur le Giro, il ne doit pas se contenter uniquement du Tour de France. Avec le maillot arc-en-ciel et en tant que Français, il devrait bien sûr faire le Tour, mais l'année prochaine on pensera à l'inscrire sur la liste pour le Tour d'Italie. Je pense que c'est une course qui lui convient, c'est nerveux et agressif. Objectivement, je ne pense pas qu'il puisse gagner le Tour", conclut le patron du Wolfpack.

 

[RedheadDane]

Raging because she knows she's never gonna win unless she has an expensive surgery?

Is Velo d'Or officially Men Only?

 

[geisterhome]

Yes, he's 22, started riding a bike at 17, is about to finish a GT for the first time, has been recovering and coming back from a huge crash which took 9 months + a season. Two months ago he was still the laughing stock after a bad Tour de Suisse, but you seem to have the ability to determine he is near or at his peak and where exactly he falls between other GC riders.

Thanks for that.

So has he improved massively since 2020 when he was called the next Eddy Merckx? He is a more mature rider now, can handle the 3 weeks of a GT better. But was he that much better during the Vuelta compared to his first week in the 2021 Giro right after his injury? I'm not saying he will not improve at all but I don't expect to see anything dramatic anymore when it didn't happen over the last two years. Anyways the future will tell if I'm right or not.

 

[hfer07]

Welcome to the GT winners Club

Now you became a marked man among the peloton

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Is Velo d'Or officially Men Only?

Does it matter?

 

[Eeslliw]

Very very impressed. On another forum I said he could do nothing or win by 5 mins. Without the crash I think he would have. Right now I would say If they all go TdF next yearq
VIng & Pog 40% chance each
Remco & Bernal (if he gets back) 10% each.
But I think Remco has the most improvement potential (but the shittest team in the history of grand tour contenders).

Were did you find Bernal? Even without crash I wouldn't rate him that high.

 

[Riek s]

So has he improved massively since 2020 when he was called the next Eddy Merckx? He is a more mature rider now, can handle the 3 weeks of a GT better. But was he that much better during the Vuelta compared to his first week in the 2021 Giro right after his injury? I'm not saying he will not improve at all but I don't expect to see anything dramatic anymore when it didn't happen over the last two years. Anyways the future will tell if I'm right or not.

If he was riding the first week of the Giro like he did this Vuelta, he would have had pink at stage 6 (maybe 1) until at least stage 11.
On Zoncolan he did 5.82W/kg, he now did 6.18W/kg for a longer duration. Bernal did 6.09W/kg here. So the difference between that Giro and this Vuelta is night and day.

Of course that Giro was just not that good from Remco and he did better performances before his fall. Like was said some time ago, the fall made him miss more than a year in progress. Most believed that if he did the Giro in 2020, he would have done a remarkable Giro. Maybe not winning it, but would have shown a lot in it. This year is now progression on top of that year.

 

[Lequack]

Is Remco now a better Belgian than Wout?

 

[Didinho]

Is Remco now a better Belgian than Wout?

He already was

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Is Remco now a better Belgian than Wout?

Yes, he's perfectly bilingual.

 

[Big Doopie]

absolutely -- with a better team he might have been able to win with a 4-5 minute margin. Can you imagine prime Skyneos or Wout/Kuss/Roglic working for him?

Even with this team, had he not crashed, he may have won by 4-5 minutes with no stress in third week.

 

[kingjr]

Is Velo d'Or officially Men Only?

Seeing how they ride in separate races, there really ought to be separate awards.

 

[del1962]

I think he had to do the tour next year, he needs to test himself against Pog and Ving. Potentially a great spectacle for the fans.