It's good for the sport that A Belgian has won a grand tour - He may get one or two days to celebrate before he travels to OZ for the World's.
Great GT win and well deserved. It feels like only the beginning. Someone should start a poll about who will win more Tours and who will win more GTs out of the young guns. I think I’d still vote Pogacar but tough to say. Remco is very strong. And of course Vingegaard, although for some weird reason I can’t see him giving it his all year after year and holding it together. We’ll see.
Also, does this mean the hardcore Remco fans will stop bitching at every opportunity about how people didn’t think “their boy” had proven he could contend for 3 weeks until he contended for 3 weeks? And that list of grievances that gets rolled out Arya Stark style (e.g., people said he couldn’t ride at altitude, people said he couldn’t perform for 3 weeks, etc.). That would be great.
Also, does this mean the hardcore Remco fans will stop bitching at every opportunity about how people didn’t think “their boy” had proven he could contend for 3 weeks until he contended for 3 weeks? And that list of grievances that gets rolled out Arya Stark style (e.g., people said he couldn’t ride at altitude, people said he couldn’t perform for 3 weeks, etc.). That would be great.
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back in 2020 before Lombardia, i said i thought remco could win that giro (that he never raced) by 10+ minutes.
looking at the gaps to tao and hindley here, looks like i may have underestimated that...
;-)
looking at the gaps to tao and hindley here, looks like i may have underestimated that...
;-)
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In fairness, I think Remco had received unfair assessments by some who were only interested in being polemical and insulting. In truth, the Lombardia crash was really serious and it set him back a year. At any rate, there will be no further need to speculate upon Remco's capacity in a GT. Now I imagine the same rabble-rousers will use Roglic's early exit to diminish Evenepoel's victory, cite the Tour is a whole different level and Pogi and Vingo will destroy him in France, etc. etc. But Remco just needs to continue to let his legs do the talking for him. And now he will gain in confidence and belief in his ability to someday win the Tour. And he will continue to develope, get stronger for the next several years to come, as will Tadej and Vingo (although I share your suspicion about his ability to maintain this level for several years). So cycling should have some great years to come.
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Hope he doesn't get dropped tomorrow or we'll get flooded with "lol 3rd week" comments. Fingers crossed.
As I maybe said somewhere earlier, Giro and Tour are clearly harder gt's in many ways, and while this win is a huge stepping stone for him, I think he needs to hone several areas more. Of course he now knows for sure he can be a contender for three weeks, it's the best he got from this sportswise. Team and personal building that is.
Anyway it's huge. And greatly earned.
um..."will?"
confused by the use of the future tense.
they have already. ;-)
but i agree, i think this win can really allow remco to simply focus on his future career without as much pressure and feeling he needs to prove anything. a welcome relief no doubt.
personally, i do hope he can keep his one-day attacking prowess while he also continues to master the patience needed to win GTs.
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He had 2 big goals this season. Dominated both.
Hope for the rest he doesn't have more goals next year.
Hope for the rest he doesn't have more goals next year.
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I'm not so certain the Giro is much harder than the Vuelta, if at all. The field at the Vuelta has perhaps surpassed the quality of the Giro's, although perhaps they are about even. The only thing the Giro can put together is the really killer multi-alpine pass day at high altitude, but otherwise the Vuelta courses are really tough. But otherwise, I agree about the hugeness of Remco's achievment.
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Evenepoel will be 22 years, 7 months, 18 days tomorrow, when he wins his first GT.
Merckx was 22 years, 11 months, 27 days when he won his first GT.
Petition to change the thread title to "new improved Merckx" for accuracy.
Hahaha
Merckx was 22 years, 11 months, 27 days when he won his first GT.
Petition to change the thread title to "new improved Merckx" for accuracy.
Hahaha
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Cunego was pretty monstrous at the age of 22-23: amazing Giro victory (3 mountain stages), Lombardy win and many others. Despite other great successes Il Piccolo Principe never reached heights from 2004 again.
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He's at the same level as Eddy Merckx now. They've both got one Vuelta.
I think the mountain stages are generally harder than at least this year’s Vuelta, but I would rate Remco’s performance and win above Hindley’s. I’d have to do some analysis before fully committing to that, as that one climb was extremely strong by Hindley, but Remco climbed with the best and put up the fastest ITT in decades, albeit on a fast course. The Giro would be good for him though because he’d likely win while testing himself (and developing) on high altitude HC climbs. Just my opinion. As a fan, that’d be nice to space out the top talent, but then again it’d be great to see him go against Pogacar and Vingegaard. Side note: I think Roglic should ride the Giro. Roglic vs. Remco would be a great Giro.
Edit: Fixed all my iPhone typos.
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Yea and I remember it well, but the Giro field was probably the weakest on memory and Lombardy wasn't being ridden by as many Bigs as today. Sure, he was a big talent, but he did best young before moving on to the toughest competition when his success dropped. By contrast, Remco has, except through his recovery from the accident period, won big and every indication is that his rise will continue.
there are many, many reasons for that tho.
just a discussion to be had in another part of the forum.
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I never suggested that Remco would follow Cunego's path (which is very unlikely), just reminded Damiano's successful youth
And the *** reasons for why Remco is not a top tier rider continue, just as I said they would
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So the guy we all thought would never win a GT has done it
The most unheralded out of nowhere rider since Froome
The most unheralded out of nowhere rider since Froome
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Well done, very well deserved. Compared to many recent GT winners he was left alone on many occasions, had a lot to deal with including opponents with multiple cards to play, yet handled it all admirably. Found it interesting to watch. Not knocking the individuals in his team, many of whom buried themselves for him, but clearly QS has a way to go as a GC outfit. But the future looks very bright for Remco.
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Undisputed in 2 weeks when he becomes double World Champion.
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