Also, grant Pog and Vinge one more year.Giro please. It's tough, it's magic, it's beautiful. Next step from Vuelta, gain the experience and confidence to properly fight for the Tour later.
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Also, grant Pog and Vinge one more year.Giro please. It's tough, it's magic, it's beautiful. Next step from Vuelta, gain the experience and confidence to properly fight for the Tour later.
But Lefevere's checkbook isn't. that dude is stingyCeiling on Van Wilder is infinitely higher than Vansevenant.
Also, grant Pog and Vinge one more year.
Also, grant Pog and Vinge one more year.
It sounds like you're not willing to....Rollthedice?Giro please. It's tough, it's magic, it's beautiful. Next step from Vuelta, gain the experience and confidence to properly fight for the Tour later.
If there is one thing I could take away from the Vuelta it is not that Remco can win GTs it's that he's defintiely no bueno on high altitude.If the title of this thread is correct, Evenepoel should win the giro while being world champion for the first time and doing so by stamping his authority in the stage to 3cime. So, giro it is....
It sounds like you're not willing to....Rollthedice?
We‘ve had plenty of Giri without ValverdeWell, I need something to alleviate the pain of watching a Giro without a certain rider who will end his professional career next week. Remco seems like a nice young man.
If he doesn't race Le Tour then the Giro I guess, but then also I would love to see him race La Vuelta as well. He does real good in Spain; it seems to suit him. Lombardia can wait ..no? All in all I would still hope he races in Le Tour.i think the giro makes most sense given his present team make-up.
also, do not go back to the vuelta, focus on Lombardia.
TDF in 2024. He will still be only 24. and pressure on Lefevere to come up with the needed elements in terms of support.
imagine, should he be able to hit his targets as he did this year, a 23 year old with Vuelta, Giro, LBL, Lombardia and Worlds wins already...
Can't tell if you're serious or not. You've been trolling with made up BS in the past (like Evenepoel not gaining time uphill in Poland, even after i showed you the intermediate times before and after the climbs, you kept repeating that sht), but on the other hand i would think you are sensible enough to know losing mere seconds to Roglic and Mas on the day he was supped to lose minutes, while still recovering from his crash and doing most of the work the entire climb, was pretty damn good. So, i really can't tell, but i'm afraid you're being serious.If there is one thing I could take away from the Vuelta it is not that Remco can win GTs it's that he's defintiely no bueno on high altitude.
I'm pretty sure he would've at least stayed with Mas without his fall and if he drafted instead of taking the lead. He trained so much on all of this that I'm sure he's also great at altitude.Losing mere seconds to Roglic and Mas on the day he was supped to lose minutes, while still recovering from his crash and doing most of the work the entire climb, was pretty damn good. So, i really can't tell, but i'm afraid you're being serious.
Can't tell if you're serious or not. You've been trolling with made up BS in the past (like Evenepoel not gaining time uphill in Poland, even after i showed you the intermediate times before and after the climbs, you kept repeating that sht), but on the other hand i would think you are sensible enough to know losing mere seconds to Roglic and Mas on the day he was supped to lose minutes, while still recovering from his crash and doing most of the work the entire climb, was pretty damn good. So, i really can't tell, but i'm afraid you're being serious.
It sounds like you're not willing to....Rollthedice?
i think the giro makes most sense given his present team make-up.
also, do not go back to the vuelta, focus on Lombardia.
TDF in 2024. He will still be only 24. and pressure on Lefevere to come up with the needed elements in terms of support.
imagine, should he be able to hit his targets as he did this year, a 23 year old with Vuelta, Giro, LBL, Lombardia and Worlds wins already...
He'll be only 24, yes - but ain't no telling how Ayuso has evolved by then. Best to get at many tries at a TDF win as (early as) possible.
The TDF GC freaks are beatable, if Evenepoel keeps this up. 2023 could actually end up being his best year. Why waste it on another far less prestigious GT - when QS has a perfectly fine (if not quite outstanding) team to support him.
Look at 2011 Evans, 2020 Pog. No climbing support to speak of. Evans did have a good team for the flats and hilly stages, though.
I agree that if the goal is to win the Tour it makes no sense to go to the Giro next year.He'll be only 24, yes - but ain't no telling how Ayuso has evolved by then. Best to get at many tries at a TDF win as (early as) possible.
The TDF GC freaks are beatable, if Evenepoel keeps this up. 2023 could actually end up being his best year. Why waste it on another far less prestigious GT - when QS has a perfectly fine (if not quite outstanding) team to support him.
Look at 2011 Evans, 2020 Pog. No climbing support to speak of. Evans did have a good team for the flats and hilly stages, though.
I'm not sure Remco needs more help in echelonsSooooo... Quintana's free
Giro please. It's tough, it's magic, it's beautiful. Next step from Vuelta, gain the experience and confidence to properly fight for the Tour later.
How you managed to have so many bad takes in 1 post is beyond me.Better not wait too long for the Tour (Remco).
Everyone says, had Roglic gone to the Tour 2019, he would have won.
Remco is good now. He can win the Tour now. No one knows when he‘ll be on the decline. 2025 is too late maybe.
UAE sent Ayuso to the Vuelta aged 19, and told him to finish - even with a Covid positive body. He was third. Now UAE will send him to the Tour.
Remco should also go to next year‘s TdF. Don‘t forget what happened to Pogacar: after 2020 and 2021, he started in 2022 to win a third Tour. After these three weeks of the TdF 2022, suddenly all world realized that Pog is already on the decline - much earlier than expected.