Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

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I think we are seeing it - it’s happening as we speak. It’s just the results that are not according to expectations…

This in my opinion is inline with his performance in last years Vuelta. It’s just that now he’s not dealing with weak and tired field while he himself had Vuelta as his main season objective. And lost time in the mountains compared to Mas anyway…
I think his crash has definitely affected him; I do not believe this is his level at all. That doesn't mean I believe he is now or is ever going to be the best of the best on successive big mountain days either, but a Remco without the crash would have crushed this TT today, on that I would bet all my.money.
 
I think his crash has definitely affected him; I do not believe this is his level at all. That doesn't mean I believe he is now or is ever going to be the best of the best on successive big mountain days either, but a Remco without the crash would have crushed this TT today, on that I would bet all my.money.
I don't think the crash had that much effect. The stress, press and competition has tired him out and this is what he needed to learn to win a well-contested GT. It's too early to write him off; most of his "fans" had him with a 2:30 lead after this TT and the competition going home to cry in their pillows.
The rest day and how he hands off the jersey are the two immediate questions. Let Ineos take the responsibility of defense and recoup, if SQS can do that. It's a preferential strategy than defending from here on out and lose way more time. Take the win late, if you can. My guess is Primoz will be ready for the uphill TT and won't waste much energy unless a stage presents a great opportunity that only involves one Ineos survivor.
 
People added laughing emoji to my comments last weekend after his win at Stage 1. But to me it's still clear that he mistimed his form.
It's been 3 weeks since Liège. If he is now already declining so much, while the stages aren't even that hard yet, then he was never going to have any chance to begin with, since a GT is 3 weeks. Last year he was equally impressive in San Sebastian. Then he won the Vuelta, and then he became Worldchampion. A timespan of exactly 2 months.

I don't think the crash had that much effect. The stress, press and competition has tired him out and this is what he needed to learn to win a well-contested GT. It's too early to write him off; most of his "fans" had him with a 2:30 lead after this TT and the competition going home to cry in their pillows.
I think this is complete nonsense. He has had pressure and press for 4 years. But now suddenly this would wear him down after one week in the Giro?
 
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As a big fan, 2 disappointing stages in a row. Not used to it anymore with him, he always delivered the last years.
He needs to get better, soon. Hope he can change it around again, 45sec is not much with what's coming.
I think the problem might be Soudal. Thomas is guitar string pulled, for example, and this didn't hurt his TTing today. Remco looks like he still has some baby fat. Evenepoel dug really deep to win, but gained just 1 second, so he burried himself. Not a good rapport between effort expenditure to GC benefit.
 
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Still weird he was not aware of the difficulties caused by the crash and has started the TT way too fast. I imagine if it was a "simple" pain in the area where he took the hit, he would know this pain is there even on the warm-up and adjust to it. Weird because he also sprinted hard on Grand Sasso stage at the end, without being forced too, as if not feeling the effects of the crash too much. But you can put that as him pretending to be strong so others wouldn't try anything yesterday, but even him yesterday talking about being able to follow Roglic if paced correctly and gaining a minute today... there was no one to fool, as there was no racing till TT and TT is raced as fast as possible anyway.
So it looks more like he was genuinely not aware of the difficulties he will have, before he started today and saw he can't really do it as he expected to do it.
This makes me think that crashes injuries are not as painful in themselves and that there is proper form drop of the whole body.

I don't think the crash would cause infection, he was completely dressed (didn't tore the clothes) and the crash was at least basically medically attended very soon (finish).
About the puss ouzing from the wound... I've tried to read (machine translation) everything I could find about that and didn't find anything about it being "black", just about it being there. I'm a bit surprised about that, since without tearing clothes, I would not expect an open wound, but from my (limited) experience with road rashes, the wounds are a bit "slimy wet" for a few days, I thought its a normal part of healing process.
 
It's been 3 weeks since Liège. If he is now already declining so much, while the stages aren't even that hard yet, then he was never going to have any chance to begin with, since a GT is 3 weeks. Last year he was equally impressive in San Sebastian. Then he won the Vuelta, and then he became Worldchampion. A timespan of exactly 2 months.


I think this is complete nonsense. He has had pressure and press for 4 years. But now suddenly this would wear him down after one week in the Giro?
Agree completely with this. The kid has been through mountains of pressure and a nearly career ending crash and has emerged nothing but stronger after all that. IMHO it looked like he was barely feeling the pedals this Giro until going down twice in one day, and now looks like a very different rider. That's no coincidence and I think it's just silly to suggest otherwise.
 
It's been 3 weeks since Liège. If he is now already declining so much, while the stages aren't even that hard yet, then he was never going to have any chance to begin with, since a GT is 3 weeks. Last year he was equally impressive in San Sebastian. Then he won the Vuelta, and then he became Worldchampion. A timespan of exactly 2 months.

That is with presumption, that he started his peak in Liege, but he may have overcooked on the training before that and he was already mid-peak then.
But if this is indeed non-injury/illness related form drop, and his form was not yet (or just begining to) peaking in Liege, then yes, he never stood a chance, if yesterday hill performance is anything to go by about the upcoming mountain performances (which is not a sure thing).
 
He likely has an infection

Remember when he was riding with his Jersey open on the final climb Friday? When it was freaking cold? He likely had a fever. Not surprised given what he should about the wound leaking puss.

The other riders should have buried him Friday and Saturday. 14 seconds is a wasted opportunity
 
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Anyone know what Geraint Thomas's unflattering nickname is for Remco ?

As for Remco and this Giro ...his fans on here are insane . Its he is either going to win everything in sight and trash everyone (which is super annoying to have in your face all the time) or he is going to lose everything and its a disaster

Can you not stop the histrionics. There is a long way to go yet and even another TT. no one has lost or won the Giro
 
Imagine being "bad" and still winning a flat TT in front of all the fresh TT specialists. Come on!
“all the fresh TT specialists”
In the top 12 today there are 2 non-GC riders. One a very competent TT specialist that should be far ahead of a rider like Tao on a good day, and the other is Bruno Almorail that never have been a top class TT (albeit a solid TTer, i don’t want to underestimate him) so to call him a specialist is maybe a bit of a stretch.
 
Anyone know what Geraint Thomas's unflattering nickname is for Remco ?

As for Remco and this Giro ...his fans on here are insane . Its he is either going to win everything in sight and trash everyone (which is super annoying to have in your face all the time) or he is going to lose everything and its a disaster

Can you not stop the histrionics. There is a long way to go yet and even another TT. no one has lost or won the Giro
 
Logically if Evenepoel has had a form drop in the 8th, 9th stage, whilst still winning the TT marginally, then it's because of the double crashes. Otherwise Soudal totally botched his approach, but after his San Sebastian-Vuelta- Worlds last year, this seams unlikely. It thus remains to be seen if Remco can recover and turn the trend around. We shall know After Crans Montagna.
 
Way premature to talk about peaking too early or ilness or whatever. The most plausible explanation is what we actually saw happen, which is the crashes. In fact now thanks to the crashes you probably can never confidently claim he peaked too early after the fact.

That said, if he started his ITT according to a pacing plan, that first time split wasn't even particularly impressive compared to the stage 1 ITT, which does make me think a 40+ minute ITT is longer than perfect for Evenepoel.
 
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