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- Mar 29, 2012
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The TdS just got much more interesting.
If Remco isn't doing the Tour, he can go full for whatever (stages, GC).
I would still like to just see him doing TdS and the Tour next, but I guess we need to wait another year (and who knows what will happen in 2024: he can as well come red hot out of TdS this year, and crash in June next year and still not do the Tour...
If Remco isn't doing the Tour, he can go full for whatever (stages, GC).
I would still like to just see him doing TdS and the Tour next, but I guess we need to wait another year (and who knows what will happen in 2024: he can as well come red hot out of TdS this year, and crash in June next year and still not do the Tour...
- Jun 1, 2015
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I expect him to win Tour de Suisse and am hoping he will surprise everyone and ride the Tour for GC. Pogi’s form is questionable. Remco should be at our nearing lifetime peak so why not now eh?
- Feb 27, 2023
- 242
- 348
- 1,230
- Sep 12, 2022
- 1,390
- 1,839
- 5,680
What's the known opposition? Ayuso, Fuglsang, Bernal, Pidcock, Higuita, Kelderman and Bardet? If he's in proper form he should definitely finish on the podium, but difficult to say how he's feeling after the short Giro.
- Jun 7, 2011
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Except that it makes perfect sense. He peaked for the Giro, had to recover from covid and just started training a few days ago. If he went to the Tour he would never be in top shape and he could never prolong his Giro peak throughout the Tour and into the WCC. Maybe he could do a top 10 in the TDF, but that's not where his ambitions lie. If he goes, he wants to win or at least contend for victory. Going for stages is a complete waste of time, they will automatically come whenever he goes in the future. Especially since winning a WCC (RR or TT) easily tops a stagewin in the Tour. Even more so because in that scenario he could still realistically ad Vuelta where he can go for a second GC win as well as multiple stage wins, with Lombardia afterwards.
So it makes one-zero-zero sense.
- Apr 26, 2023
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He won 2 out of the last 3 WT stage races that he finished. In the other one was second. Hardly mediocre.
Anyhow, i can't wait for the Remco vs Rogla beef to start again.
Anyhow, i can't wait for the Remco vs Rogla beef to start again.
- Aug 29, 2011
- 3,441
- 1,615
- 16,680
- Jun 30, 2022
- 2,289
- 3,526
- 9,180
- Apr 1, 2019
- 4,283
- 5,906
- 15,180
- Apr 3, 2009
- 10,638
- 3,962
- 28,180
Why does he need an excuse? He either has it or he doesn't. Such a bizarre line of discussion around just this one rider.
Stoked he's doing Suisse, it's a great race. I think he'll do well and has every chance to win. Bummed he's not doing the Tour, but can't say I'm surprised. If he doesn't do the Vuelta, no, it doesn't make much sense. Just don't see why lining up and going for stage wins is such a wild prospect to some folks and his team...or him. I guess I don't see the media pressure that he gets in Belgium, but then...I don't see why it matters THAT much. Just drop some time in the first mountain stage and state repeatedly your intention not to be going for GC. If he's going for the Worlds and the Vuelta, it makes total sense not to do the Tour. If he's just doing the Worlds and NOT the Vuelta, it does in fact make zero sense not to ride the tour in the Rainbow Jersey and go for stage wins.
Stoked he's doing Suisse, it's a great race. I think he'll do well and has every chance to win. Bummed he's not doing the Tour, but can't say I'm surprised. If he doesn't do the Vuelta, no, it doesn't make much sense. Just don't see why lining up and going for stage wins is such a wild prospect to some folks and his team...or him. I guess I don't see the media pressure that he gets in Belgium, but then...I don't see why it matters THAT much. Just drop some time in the first mountain stage and state repeatedly your intention not to be going for GC. If he's going for the Worlds and the Vuelta, it makes total sense not to do the Tour. If he's just doing the Worlds and NOT the Vuelta, it does in fact make zero sense not to ride the tour in the Rainbow Jersey and go for stage wins.
- Apr 10, 2019
- 9,418
- 11,093
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If he dominates the Tour de Suisse the sponsors might get impatient and will pressure the team to send him to the Tour. If he rides for the gc I expect his form to fall of the ciff in the Tour at some point, as @Logic-is-your-friend said, peaking from Liege until after the Tour is not a thing.
If next year Lefevre is all "actually we want to focus on the Olympics plus the Tour starts in Italy and Remco had many bad experiences racing in Italy" I'm all for calling him out on his bs.
Stagehunting at the Tour would be fine, but that would mean actually saying that you don't go there for the gc from the start and not blowing smoke up anyone's arse...
If next year Lefevre is all "actually we want to focus on the Olympics plus the Tour starts in Italy and Remco had many bad experiences racing in Italy" I'm all for calling him out on his bs.
Stagehunting at the Tour would be fine, but that would mean actually saying that you don't go there for the gc from the start and not blowing smoke up anyone's arse...
- Apr 10, 2019
- 9,418
- 11,093
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At this point I really also wanna see Roglic at the Tour de Suisse.
- Jun 6, 2017
- 5,599
- 2,838
- 18,180
- Jun 7, 2011
- 17,586
- 13,816
- 28,180
Red Rick
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- Feb 20, 2012
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I doubt sponsors can pressure Evenepoel much. What are they gonna do, disband the team? Remco would love that.
To me a lot of 'pressure' arguments are just weird.
TdS is just a pretty independent race for Evenepoel. Normal amount of pressure, nothing more, nothing less. It's like Catalunya maybe.
To me a lot of 'pressure' arguments are just weird.
TdS is just a pretty independent race for Evenepoel. Normal amount of pressure, nothing more, nothing less. It's like Catalunya maybe.
His form falling of a cliff? As we have seen, his peak is a plateau. He can still start the tour with ambitions even if his preparation is not optimal. Pogačar's preparation is neither optimal and if Vingegaard freaks out because of a puncture or whatever his tour will neither be optimal. Not going to the tour is a missed opportunity.
- Jun 7, 2011
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It was 5 months last year. Liege to Worlds. TDS fall off was heat stroke related, not a loss of form
- Apr 13, 2021
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What's people obsession with remco vs roglic battle again? They did battle in Cayalunya already and Roglic won. Time to see if remco can beat Heguita and Powless
- Aug 29, 2011
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- Jun 7, 2011
- 17,586
- 13,816
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One could almost say Roglic cheated, by not crashing!
Pogacar doesn't get it either why Remco doesn't go to the tour. I am pretty sure Remco has the same feeling but, don't worry, the team strategists have it all worked out! Next year he will start in the perfect shape and he will know every corner and dog! The anticipation will be sky high and he will have zero experience in the biggest cycling show on Earth but that's all irrelevant for the team.
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