Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Berniece]

I missed the race today, how was Remco?

 

[Big Doopie]

I missed the race today, how was Remco?

Good. But Rog appears stronger right now.

 

[joseph89]

I missed the race today, how was Remco?

Lost 2secs to roglic but now has landa setting off before him in the TT.

 

[ManicJack]

As a journalist of a Flemish tv-station confirmed. It was nearly impossible to communicate using radio during the final ascent. They had the same problems. The small group of favorites caught up with the fugitives one by one. Without radio impossible to know as a rider if whether there were any riders ahead

Sound like SQS and the Flemish journos needs to buy some Dutch radios.

 

[joseph89]

Lost 2secs to roglic but now has landa setting off before him in the TT.

Primoz, Mas, Evenepoel, Ayuso & Vingegaard all given same time.

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Primoz, Mas, Evenepoel, Ayuso & Vingegaard all given same time.

I both understand the decision (nobody really knew where the finish was), but predominately disagree, because Mas and Ayuso were clear even before where they originally indicated the finish would be, and what about everyone else riding? They will not apply this to riders further down. Clown show, predominately.

 

[Unchained]

Leader(s) and chase and peloton are given split times.. They know from the team and others who they are chasing or trying to stay ahead of all the time.. Remco and everyone else knew what place they were racing for.. and if they were confused by motorcycle held status board they would ask one of the team cars. Rewriting history when you lose is not new.. can be considered acting

Let me complain for Remco today: The way they decided to finish today was ridiculous. I love the Vuelta, too bad it's being run by a team of clowns.

Agree completely.. Go neutral when it's not dangerous and run the race in a downpour, roads w standing water and no visibility.. and even w the @2.5 k of neutrality.. Why were cars tailgating racers on skinny, wet, dirty surface for the last K or K and a half.. Winner and second place almost run over by cars..and the turn out was at the finish line.. Ridiculous

 

[bNator]

to be fair Mas still there and he didn't lost a meter yesterday, pretty much same as Almeida and Soler, last year he destroyed the field on a similar climb

Yes to a certain extent. Mas did have a better cumulative mountain/hill stages time and Alameida undeniably made a lot of progress since last year. Soler either surprised yesterday or the tempo was indeed not on last year’s level…

 

[Extinction]

There was little mud on the road, thus the decision to count time from 2km out was a fiasco,. It's getting ridiculous when once they used to shovel the snow to allow the riders to pass. Why didn't they have volunteers to clean up the (insignificant) mud is beyond me?

 

[proffate]

I guess all the press are haters too. No one loves your boy poor thing.

Press only cares about stirring up ***. The Remco haters are quite easy to rally

 

[hayneplane]

A good first week and team help has held up better than expected for the most part despite the DNF for Bagioli.

Still the rider under the most pressure for the ITT because it is his best ticket to a dominant position on GC but Roglic and Vingegaard will also be massively under the microscope as they seek to assert themselves as number 1 option within Jumbo Visma.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Primoz, Mas, Evenepoel, Ayuso & Vingegaard all given same time.

PCS and official site still show Landa ahead of Roglic

 

[red_flanders]

Let me complain for Remco today: The way they decided to finish today was ridiculous. I love the Vuelta, too bad it's being run by a team of clowns.

Yes, you complaining is a real breath of fresh air...

 

[joseph89]

PCS and official site still show Landa ahead of Roglic

Thats correct, on GC Landa & Roglic are on the same time as landa lost time yesterday.

 

[joseph89]

According to HLN, Klaas Lodewyck - "All training during the (altitude) internship was deliberately tailored to a peak in the second and third week. So he's on schedule."

 

[Berniece]

According to HLN, Klaas Lodewyck - "All training during the (altitude) internship was deliberately tailored to a peak in the second and third week. So he's on schedule."

In that case everything is going according to plan I would imagine. He can start the 2nd week by taking 30-60s on his direct opponents, and keep JV in the red jersey thanks to Kuss. Puts him and his team in an easy position.

 

[tobydawq]

Leave Rog alone. I can assure you his fans love his way of racing. Rather than worrying about Rog’s panache, focus on your 10 years younger guy being able to stay with him in GC.

What? Please speak for yourself. I would say I am a fan of Roglic but I certainly have not loved his way of racing in 2023 before stage 6 of the Vuelta.

 

[Kwaremonster]

According to HLN, Klaas Lodewyck - "All training during the (altitude) internship was deliberately tailored to a peak in the second and third week. So he's on schedule."

I take that with a pinch of salt since he peaked for the world tt and time after was relatively short. Also, they probably are all doing that.

So benefits of that specific preparation are relatively small I reckon. Not too say he's not gonna be good ofcourse, he very well might be, but I doubt that will be because a specific preparation different from the others.

 

[bNator]

What? Please speak for yourself. I would say I am a fan of Roglic but I certainly have not loved his way of racing in 2023 before stage 6 of the Vuelta.

Would you guys knock it off? First @Extinction got all sensitive about how I am not going to tell him what to do, now you will get salty as well?

Go read the statement again - it was a figure of speech in a response to a rather shitty post about Rogla and not meant to be taken literally. I would expect that much is clear. I did not mean to either literally instruct Extiction to focus on anything nor am I thinking I am some kind of Rogla fans representative here...

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Guys if you don't like my posts or disagree and want to argue, just rember they are all figures of speech and not meant to be taken literally thanks.

 

[Elos Anjos]

Guys if you don't like my posts or disagree and want to argue, just rember they are all figures of speech and not meant to be taken literally thanks.

This is literally my first impression of Italians. To lighthearted to be taken seriously.

 

[Netserk]

Guys if you don't like my posts or disagree and want to argue, just rember they are all figures of speech and not meant to be taken literally thanks.

Don't worry, we know all your takes are illiterate.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

What? Please speak for yourself. I would say I am a fan of Roglic but I certainly have not loved his way of racing in 2023 before stage 6 of the Vuelta.

I agree with this, although stage 8 of the Giro showed panache.

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

Ilmaestro99, despite being a madman, has better takes than half of this forum.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

That's fine, although you did come across as arrogant. Naturally I'll post as I see fit, with analysis as I perceive things, for which I totally dispute my post being "shitty," as it was simply a valid observation of the end dynamics of that stage. Roglic won another mountain sprint without panache. It's generally how he operates. Now that's not "shitty" commentary, just taking note of an objective reality. And the remark was made in light of Evenepoel taking the race into his own hands, as he so often does, with Roglic benefitting from that pace setting, as he so often does. What's actually "shitty" is firstly the condescending way in which you told me, figure of speech or not (and frankly I have my doubts), about what I'm allowed to write about, and secondly calling my post "shitty". You've got some nerve.

I don’t know that this is necessarily true. Remco set such a hard pace that you couldn’t really attack from it. If he hadn’t, and it had been slow, Roglic might have exchanged attacks with his teammates, which does not suit Remco.