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You think he trains more and harder than Vingegaard?
I have no possibility to know which of them that trains the most or the hardest, but it’s a myth that the one athlete who train the most and the hardest are the one that become the best. It’s all about training efficient and find the right balance between hard enough training and good enough recovery.

As an athletics coach I know said “for every world champion there are 20 runners that trained more or harder, but it’s never been about training the most or the hardest”
 
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meh. you're telling me it would be preferable for him to be sitting behind UAE and TJV right now instead of risking it at the front of the race for a possible spectacular win??
Is it really that spectacular? We already know he can do this. If he wants he can do this all the time and win a ton of stages in any tour. If he wants to be the type of rider that does these things then by all means. If he wants to be a gc rider then no.

Also if he feels better today what stops him from doing something spectacular even if he was just on 8-10 min behind? Let Remco ride like Remco instead of this "defensive" talk we've been hearing for 2 weeks. If he fails then he tried, if he doesn't then it is actually spectacular. Letting jumbo dictate the race all the time is suicide anyway.
 
Is it really that spectacular?
Yes. Yes it is.


We already know he can do this. If he wants he can do this all the time and win a ton of stages in any tour.

No. Nobody can 'win a ton of stages in any tour'
You say this as if anybody can just go a win a stage if the feel like it.
Why do you think guys we consider great stage hunters or breakaway riders are guys that only win 1-2 stages in an entire year over multiple GTs?

Also if he feels better today what stops him from doing something spectacular even if he was just on 8-10 min behind?
A team of yellow robots
 
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Yes. Yes it is.




No. Nobody can 'win a ton of stages in any tour'
You say this as if anybody can just go a win a stage if the feel like it.
Why do you think guys we consider great stage hunters or breakaway riders are guys that only win 1-2 stages in an entire year over multiple GTs?


A team of yellow robots

I disagree, I believe fully in Remcos ability to win multiple stages in any tour he rides, if he just goes for stage wins. Our definition of a "a ton of stages" is likely different. I'm also not claiming it would work out every time, but how often did you see a break with Remco fail? I'm not saying at all that just anyone can go win a stage. We are talking about Remco here, not anyone else.

Yes jumbo might destroy you, and likely. They will always be there and do it no matter what time you are on, nobody stands a chance at the moment.
 
So there's nothing to suggest that he's had a longer season than his competitors, merely that it's more than he can handle?
The only thing that make some kind of sense regarding this is that because of Covid he never got a proper rest period (being out of training because you’re sick is not resting) after the Giro before building again for WC ITT with pressing in Tour du Suisse instead.
So that he’s not been able to let go and train easy for a short or longer period during the season.

Just as a comparison with Roglic which I think benefits from being older and more experienced with less variety in his targets (one can say Roglic and his team is way smarter than Remco and his team in this regard). I think it’s logical to think that Roglic could let go for a bit longer directly after Catalunya because he didn’t had Liege on his program.

If Remco didn’t get Covid in the Giro he would’ve probably made a proper break after that and then refocused on WC ITT and autumn classics (no Vuelta on program) and then it probably would’ve been fine. But because the Covid in giro he’s changing the plan (first adding Suisse and then adding Vuelta) and it might have led to him being chasing form the entire summer that adds up to “a long season” even with less racing days. If that makes sense?
 
The only thing that make some kind of sense regarding this is that because of Covid he never got a proper rest period (being out of training because you’re sick is not resting) after the Giro before building again for WC ITT with pressing in Tour du Suisse instead.
So that he’s not been able to let go and train easy for a short or longer period during the season.

Just as a comparison with Roglic which I think benefits from being older and more experienced with less variety in his targets (one can say Roglic and his team is way smarter than Remco and his team in this regard). I think it’s logical to think that Roglic could let go for a bit longer directly after Catalunya because he didn’t had Liege on his program.

If Remco didn’t get Covid in the Giro he would’ve probably made a proper break after that and then refocused on WC ITT and autumn classics (no Vuelta on program) and then it probably would’ve been fine. But because the Covid in giro he’s changing the plan (first adding Suisse and then adding Vuelta) and it might have led to him being chasing form the entire summer that adds up to “a long season” even with less racing days. If that makes sense?
Certainly a possible explanation.
His entire season plan sure didn't include the Vuelta, and i don't think Suisse was part of the original plan either.
Sadly, a pretty good 'throwaway' year with a monument, ITT worlds and some GT stage wins.
 
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He doesn't want to be a stage hunter though. He wants to go for GT wins.
He's obviously only able to do this today cuz hes down half an hour.

He can't just roll up to the tour and drop 20' on the first sprint stage so guys will let him in breakaways.
Yes, I don't know what point you're arguing. I know he can only do this because he's down 30 min. You're the one who called it spectacular, not me. And my whole point has been that as a gc rider he should have gone for gc and not turn this vuelta into a stage hunt, which he did whe he phoned it in.

Also you could easily drop yourself and lose time at earliest convenience. Obviously not a flat stage, but as soon as there is a gc stage you can bow out and go for stages. I'm not saying he should, but you could if you wanted to.
 
Today Remco wins his first high mountain stage in a Grand Tour. I know that he took it easy yesterday on the Tourmalet after his collapse earlier on the stage but its a beautiful way to get his 49th professional win.