Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Volderke]

Having this much team support in the break was a blessing but also a burden.

The blessing was in not having to work too much.
The burden was that Evenepoel relied on late effort / sprint, while he would have had a much better chance if he started attacking from much further out. The explosive finale was not his strongest talent, and a sprint is always tricky (as it proved to be). I would have been much better if his team tried to split things much earlier and next Remco attacking on the uphill, flat and downhill all the same.

 

[Nick2413]

Having this much team support in the break was a blessing but also a burden.

The blessing was in not having to work too much.
The burden was that Evenepoel relied on late effort / sprint, while he would have had a much better chance if he started attacking from much further out. The explosive finale was not his strongest talent, and a sprint is always tricky (as it proved to be). I would have been much better if his team tried to split things much earlier and next Remco attacking on the uphill, flat and downhill all the same.

Remco - the only rider who is stronger the less support he has

 

[Berniece]

Sounds like he has poor recovery.

Do you even watch cycling?

 

[Salvarani]

Cant wait for the G. Martin vs Remco battle in the Tour next year.

Who could finish the highest in the GC by going in the break each and every day?

Could be a close battle.

 

[Samu Cuenca]

Cant wait for the G. Martin vs Remco battle in the Tour next year.

Who could finish the highest in the GC by going in the break each and every day?

Could be a close battle.

With the difference being that Remco would win 5 stages, while Martin wouldn't finish higher than 5th on any stage.

 

[Salvarani]

With the difference being that Remco would win 5 stages, while Martin wouldn't finish higher than 5th on any stage.

Probably.

But the intriguing part will be if they are not in the break on the same day and who gets the most minutes on each turn.

 

[Big Doopie]

50 wins.

Faster than Pog.

Faster than Merckx.

Seems worth repeating at this point.

Bwahahaha!

Having said that, I doubt RVV is a goal at all. He said he struggled specifically on the cobbles of the climb. No way he competes with VDP and Pog in RVV. No way.

 

[Berniece]

Having said that, I doubt RVV is a goal at all. He said he struggled specifically on the cobbles of the climb. No way he competes with VDP and Pog in RVV. No way.

Not any time soon at least. He also struggled with WC RR this year, change of pace and a lot of accelerations isn’t his thing

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

I think that if Remco shall have any chance in the RVV in the future he needs to gain a few kilos to have more power on the cobbled climbs and he need to go very long so he gets out in the front before Pog/MVDP/WVA drops everyone else.
Then his chance is that he goes fast enough up the hills so they don’t get his wheel and the increase the lead on the flat between.
(And of course he needs to specifically train more on those roads and do some more races like this)

 

[DNP-Old]

Whatever he choses to target (or not target), it is much easier to plan around with le Tour than whatever that clusterf*ck was going into this Vuelta. It took him a while to get back onto the bike after his covid infection, but they did all sorts of things in his prep.

Ultimately, the only ones to have a perfect run in were Roglic and Ayuso, but I can't imagine anyone else doing this zig zag of a prep. Going to altitude for just a few days? That won't have any favourable effects, surely. Not to mention Glasgow probably hit him like a truck.

 

[Oldermanish]

He was out maneuvered tactically today but his team should have warned him about being the first in the turn and keeping a watch on Wouter Lambertus Martinus Henricus Poels. Not only was Wouter Lambertus Martinus Henricus Poels with their team once upon a time but they are no novices at sprint positioning either.

They should have been in his Remco's ear all the way to the line. If they didn't remind him it would be on him for not knowing the finale and the DS in the car second.

 

[Oldermanish]

Not any time soon at least. He also struggled with WC RR this year, change of pace and a lot of accelerations isn’t his thing

It might be good for him to train intervals like that to be competitive with Pogacar and to whatever extent the JV players. You can always go back to the power emphasis easily but it takes some serious self flagellation to train intervals beyond your comfort level. He'd lose some upper body weight, possibly with the metabolic stress.

 

[The fridge in the blue trees]

50 wins.

Faster than Pog.

Faster than Merckx.

Seems worth repeating at this point.

Bwahahaha!

Having said that, I doubt RVV is a goal at all. He said he struggled specifically on the cobbles of the climb. No way he competes with VDP and Pog in RVV. No way.

Faster than Pog?
They both turned pro in 2019, Pog reached the 50 mark in February. He also needed less races for it. Oh, by age?

Faster than Merckx? Merckx reached 50 at 23 years 4 months and 3 days. According to PCS
Remco is 23 and almost 9 months?

Just repeating it doesn't make it true.

 

[The fridge in the blue trees]

Hm, my math a bit off, 6 and 8 months...

 

[Big Doopie]

Oh, by age?

Um…duh.

And as I have posted 10 million times before, I am not saying, he is better than either of those riders, or even equal to them. My only point is that anyone who doesn’t think he is an extraordinary cyclist, absolutely extraordinary, is simply full of it.

 

[The fridge in the blue trees]

Oh, by age? Merckx?

Bwahahaha

 

[Hugh Januss]

Um…duh.

And as I have posted 10 million times before, I am not saying, he is better than either of those riders, or even equal to them. My only point is that anyone who doesn’t think he is an extraordinary cyclist, absolutely extraordinary, is simply full of it.

Remco is a one trick pony when compared to Pogacar. Maybe even compared to WVA or MVDP, let's see him ride cross or even just cobbles.

 

[Berniece]

Remco is a one trick pony when compared to Pogacar. Maybe even compared to WVA or MVDP, let's see him ride cross or even just cobbles.

1 trick pony? He has more diverse way of winning his 50 races than Pogacar has. Even more diverse type of races.

 

[Red Rick]

1 trick pony? He has more diverse way of winning his 50 races than Pogacar has. Even more diverse type of races.

I don't think you're gonna make your point well when saying it about Pogacar where it's so obviously untrue

 

[TrekCyclist]

1 trick pony? He has more diverse way of winning his 50 races than Pogacar has. Even more diverse type of races.

I would have a hard time naming many races, where I would have Evenepoel a favourite over Pogacar, honestly.

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

I think the only thing Remco done that Pogacar hasn’t done is soloing on pretty much flat courses.

Otherwise Pogacar is like the worst you can try to compare with when it comes to diversity. Only to be able to compare with Pogacar says a lot, but it’s way too much to claim Remco is cleary more diverse.

 

[dazaau]

I would have a hard time naming many races, where I would have Evenepoel a favourite over Pogacar, honestly.

TT.

That's probably it.

But Remco is certainly not a 1 trick pony. Pretty diverse wins for sure.

 

[Berniece]

I don't think you're gonna make your point well when saying it about Pogacar where it's so obviously untrue

Time trials and Flat stages are things Pogacar barely and doesn’t win, both of them win hilly and mountain stages, and Pogacar wins on cobbles

I’m not saying Evenepoel is a better rider, I’m saying he wins a more diverse set of races

 

[Eddy Evenepoel]

Time trials and Flat stages are things Pogacar barely and doesn’t win, both of them win hilly and mountain stages, and Pogacar wins on cobbles

I’m not saying Evenepoel is a better rider, I’m saying he wins a more diverse set of races

That’s two things Remco wins that Pogacar rarely win, but it’s also easy to say two things Pogacar wins that Remco never/barely have won:
Cobble races and huge mountain stages

 

[Berniece]

That’s two things Remco wins that Pogacar rarely win, but it’s also easy to say two things Pogacar wins that Remco never/barely have won:
Cobble races and huge mountain stages

Stage 14 this Vuelta?