Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Andre]

Ceria Brewing Company | Alcohol-Free Beer

Ceria (rhymes with “area”) was founded by legendary brewmaster Keith Villa. When Keith was young, he moved all the way to Belgium to study the art of beermaking. Now he makes alcohol-free beer in Colorado with all of the flavor and none of the alcohol.

ceriabrewing.com

Maybe he would go for this. I had never heard of alcohol free beer until sampling some of them yesterday. They are a Denver area brewery headed by a very experienced master brewer. They were all pretty good.

You never heard of O'Doul's?

 

[Berniece]

Ceria Brewing Company | Alcohol-Free Beer

Ceria (rhymes with “area”) was founded by legendary brewmaster Keith Villa. When Keith was young, he moved all the way to Belgium to study the art of beermaking. Now he makes alcohol-free beer in Colorado with all of the flavor and none of the alcohol.

ceriabrewing.com

Maybe he would go for this. I had never heard of alcohol free beer until sampling some of them yesterday. They are a Denver area brewery headed by a very experienced master brewer. They were all pretty good.

They unfortunately don't deliver in Belgium, but he might be able to get it via another way. I unfortunately can't.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

He's in Belgium now (watching Anderlecht yesterday and he's been posting trainings in Belgium on Strava), and with only 12-13 days to go until Lombardia I guess it's probably not time to go to altitude?

Normally if you target a big classic 2-3 weeks after a grand tour you don't go back to altitude in those 2-3 weeks. If you have an altitude camp before the grand tour, then do the grand tour without going ridicolously deep, you basically have the best training block possible. Just also with a lot of accumulated fatigue. So these 2 weeks are about freshening up as much as possible whilst maintaining the form with appropriately structured training . Going back to altitude would inhibit this recovery process.

Of course if a rider fought for gc he might have gone too deep to recover properly at all on those 2 weeks.

Especially in remco case , he is 23, had an extremely stressful season and did already 4 altitude camps. Doing another would probably put on jeopardy his lombardia more than if he under-trained at sea level.

 

[ManicJack]

You never heard of O'Doul's?

I've never heard of alcohol free. It's different than NA beer.

 

[Andre]

I've never heard of alcohol free. It's different than NA beer.

ah, yes, they just don't charge you for the alcohol...it's free.

 

[Andre]

Normally if you target a big classic 2-3 weeks after a grand tour you don't go back to altitude in those 2-3 weeks. If you have an altitude camp before the grand tour, then do the grand tour without going ridicolously deep, you basically have the best training block possible. Just also with a lot of accumulated fatigue. So these 2 weeks are about freshening up as much as possible whilst maintaining the form with appropriately structured training . Going back to altitude would inhibit this recovery process.

Of course if a rider fought for gc he might have gone too deep to recover properly at all on those 2 weeks.

Especially in remco case , he is 23, had an extremely stressful season and did already 4 altitude camps. Doing another would probably put on jeopardy his lombardia more than if he under-trained at sea level.

great analysis.

 

[peterfin]

Ceria Brewing Company | Alcohol-Free Beer

Ceria (rhymes with “area”) was founded by legendary brewmaster Keith Villa. When Keith was young, he moved all the way to Belgium to study the art of beermaking. Now he makes alcohol-free beer in Colorado with all of the flavor and none of the alcohol.

ceriabrewing.com

Maybe he would go for this. I had never heard of alcohol free beer until sampling some of them yesterday. They are a Denver area brewery headed by a very experienced master brewer. They were all pretty good.

Looks interesting although I still prefer beer with alcohol. Denver is really a hotspot for quality (micro)breweries. I visited the mile high city multiple times a year while working at a company with main office in Westminster. Visiting breweries was part of my evening activity ;-) Unfortunately those good times are over including skiing in the Rockies, mountainbiking and other fun times with colleagues.

 

[ManicJack]

Looks interesting although I still prefer beer with alcohol.

I only tried them because a rep was trying to sell them to one of my local hangouts while I was there and he was very generous. Tasted like real beer. Better than Athletic Brewing NA.

 

[Andre]

...well well, Roglic and Remco might become team mates at Ineos

 

[Berniece]

...well well, Roglic and Remco might become team mates at Ineos

I would expect Remco to stay at Jumbo if Roglic goes to INEOS. Jumbo is not going to let Roglic AND Evenepoel leave. Then what's the point of that extra money from Soudal?

 

[Extinction]

I'm wondering if Remco's dropping out of all Vuelta contention, was not due to the internal stress about this impending merger, with Dad and Don Patrick fighting it out publically (without the public having a clue)? And Remco telling his own dad and Patrick to shut up, or it was going to be a long Vuelta.

 

[Extinction]

I would expect Remco to stay at Jumbo if Roglic goes to INEOS. Jumbo is not going to let Roglic AND Evenepoel leave. Then what's the point of that extra money from Soudal?

I would expect Remco to stay at Jumbo if Roglic goes to INEOS. Jumbo is not going to let Roglic AND Evenepoel leave. Then what's the point of that extra money from Soudal?

Having enough money to stay on top.

 

[Berniece]

Having enough money to stay on top.

But use it how? If you want to stay on top you need the riders. You aren't getting Pogacar, and Roglic is gone. So it makes sense to keep Evenepoel besides Vingegaard.

 

[Extinction]

But use it how? If you want to stay on top you need the riders. You aren't getting Pogacar, and Roglic is gone. So it makes sense to keep Evenepoel besides Vingegaard.

They have the rider, Vingegaard, Roglic was just excess baggage. What they need is money, not riders, to keep the Dane above the rest.

 

[red_flanders]

I'm wondering if Remco's dropping out of all Vuelta contention, was not due to the internal stress about this impending merger, with Dad and Don Patrick fighting it out publically (without the public having a clue)? And Remco telling his own dad and Patrick to shut up, or it was going to be a long Vuelta.

I thought I read somewhere that this was all a shock to the Evenepoel crew. Not sure the truth of all that, but I haven’t seen any evidence to suggest they knew about it before.

 

[Berniece]

They have the rider, Vingegaard, Roglic was just excess baggage. What they need is money, not riders, to keep the Dane above the rest.

They preferably have more than 1 great rider, you don’t put all your money on a single horse

 

[theyoungest]

You'd expect him to end up at Ineos. Otherwise what have Ineos been waiting for? They were clearly preparing for something big to happen on the transfer market, now it's happening and they end up with nothing? That seems unlikely. They have the money, clearly a lot more than Soudal-Visma or whatever that team will be called. And if Lefevere's team folds Evenepoel's contract is null and void.

 

[Oldermanish]

They have the rider, Vingegaard, Roglic was just excess baggage. What they need is money, not riders, to keep the Dane above the rest.

They need both.

 

[Andre]

I would expect Remco to stay at Jumbo if Roglic goes to INEOS. Jumbo is not going to let Roglic AND Evenepoel leave. Then what's the point of that extra money from Soudal?

I don't think they can force Remco to go to Jumbo, can they? Anyway Remco to Ineos makes more sense as they can have their own tw headed monster for GT's. Jumbo still has Vinge and Kuss and all those domestiques. Plus they'll have young talent as well as some good riders coming over from Quickstep or Soudal whatever

 

[AmRacer]

Rogla to Movie and Remco to INEOS.
TdF 2024 will be one of the best, or Kuss wins.

 

[Berniece]

I don't think they can force Remco to go to Jumbo, can they? Anyway Remco to Ineos makes more sense as they can have their own tw headed monster for GT's. Jumbo still has Vinge and Kuss and all those domestiques. Plus they'll have young talent as well as some good riders coming over from Quickstep or Soudal whatever

No they can't, Remco will go to the team that he thinks will get the most out of him. 1-2M more per year doesn't matter to him, he's aware he'll have more than enough money for the rest of his life. He wants to become a legend, and win as much as possible. That's his dream, not becoming more rich.

And I would think he'll get the most out of his career at Jumbo.

 

[Unchained]

200 years of getting Belgium in the mood to race!!!

Lindemans

Belgische brouwerij in lambiekbieren sinds 1822. Onze familie eert traditionele brouwmethodes in de unieke biotoop van de Zennevallei, ten westen van Brussel, om bieren met onmiskenbaar karakter te produceren.

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[Extinction]

They need both.

No, unfortunately, at 33, Roglic is a thing of the past, as far as they are concerned. They need money, because money talks and people walk!

 

[Extinction]

They preferably have more than 1 great rider, you don’t put all your money on a single horse

You do when the chicken lays a Golden egg twice!

 

[red_flanders]

INEOS has the best kit, by a long shot. Easy choice. 😉