- Mar 13, 2009
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His 3 week recovery is still a question, other than that, I'd place him right up there on the top 3 favorites for the Giro.
likely giro winner, and maybe by more than 5 minutes.
If the tour route weren't so biased in the favor of the climbers, I'd say he should go to the tour over the giro this year
If the tour route weren't so biased in the favor of the climbers, I'd say he should go to the tour over the giro this year
- Jun 7, 2011
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Eventhough it's super impressive how he won... i'm still not sure i'm happy he can also win like this. I hope he doesn't become one of those riders that keeps waiting and waiting because of it. It would have been quite special had he been the guy that had to look for other ways to win, with longer attacks etc.
- Jul 12, 2012
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I think that this wasn’t the type of climb that allowed for someone to break off the front towards the end.
I think you’ll see longer attacks on more difficult stages.
He'll have a bad spell at some point, maybe a couple of 2nd and 3rd places on stages.
Big Doopie
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Evenpoel had a little bit of luck when he started the attack and the others didn't react correctly; won't happen again.... (who would they have been watching?)
But I found the DQS lead out -almeida?- very strong. You don't see DQS do this in stage races. Mostly they are just following. Now they sat the pace. I also think this was one of the important reason Remco could win ; just riding hard enough for Remco; killing the others...
Walter
But I found the DQS lead out -almeida?- very strong. You don't see DQS do this in stage races. Mostly they are just following. Now they sat the pace. I also think this was one of the important reason Remco could win ; just riding hard enough for Remco; killing the others...
Walter
and next year, he'll have Alaphilippe helping him in the mountains at the tour
- Feb 21, 2019
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He never raced in the high mountains, he never raced a Grand Tour either so making that kind of prediction is very risky. I don't think he will leave Italy without a stage win, at the very least but he can lose many minutes in the long high mountain stages in the third week
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Not sure if Alaphilippe is strong enough to bring him to the last climb. He can follow but can he set the pace? He then should become a DQS version of kwiatkowski. Would his ego handle that?
Big Doopie
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Honestly, my guess is that it was fore-ordained that he wait until then. First time up there with the likes of nibali and thomas. Had he attacked from 6kms out and then been caught (and dropped!), everyone would say he had been arrogant and presumptuous. all he has to do is stay close on the MTFs. Clearly with 2kms to go, he felt great enough to allow his team-mate to set a furious pace that put many in difficulty. He then had the power to kick (and maintain!) over the top of even that.
after the stage, he even said that he had said that "if he won the stage..."
the kid already knew that there was a chance. he knows his power numbers. he knows what he can do. he knew he could win -- which is more than many here. and he has now confirmed that.
if he can get a mountain train to drill it until everyone else is asphyxiated, you will then see him attack from further out. at which point no one will catch him as i believe he may already have the greatest ability to maintain high w/kg than any pro.
- Apr 19, 2014
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He wanted to do that kind of stuff in San Juan, but the wind made than plan go down the drain and he was happy to finish with the other contenders. If he managed to stay with the other climbers when the echelons formed I think he would have just powered away from them.
need climbs like Pic du Midi, Jandri, Rosael, and other very high altitude climbs then. Would at least give Bernal a chance
Red Rick
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- Feb 20, 2012
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To be honest I want to see the truly mad climbs like that in one day races.
Overall I do think he benefits from being a better rouleur on stages like these.
- Sep 4, 2017
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I think it was actually an important piece of on the job learning to ride all the way with the climbers like Lopez and Nibali plus the puncheurs like Wellens, Schachmann and Dan Martin.
Feeling the nerves of the bunch as it thins out, the rhythms of the attacks from outsiders and when to go for it or when to follow was very useful experience.
Arguably he will have gained more from the effort overall in terms of cycling development to have ridden the way he did than if he had taken off at 4-5 km to go and held it to the line.
That kick was highly impressive considering its one of his least well developed attributes.
The Alto de Malhao still needs to be navigated successfully but the GC looks almost locked up barring accident or incidents as he can almost certainly put at least 30 seconds into the rest of the current top 10 GC in the final day time trial.
Feeling the nerves of the bunch as it thins out, the rhythms of the attacks from outsiders and when to go for it or when to follow was very useful experience.
Arguably he will have gained more from the effort overall in terms of cycling development to have ridden the way he did than if he had taken off at 4-5 km to go and held it to the line.
That kick was highly impressive considering its one of his least well developed attributes.
The Alto de Malhao still needs to be navigated successfully but the GC looks almost locked up barring accident or incidents as he can almost certainly put at least 30 seconds into the rest of the current top 10 GC in the final day time trial.
- Nov 16, 2013
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I really think people are underestimating Schachmann's TT capabilities quite a bit here. Yes, Remco seems like a machine, but last time he rode a TT at the end of a stage race, he actually didn't win (Tour of Belgium).
Nothing is locked or set in stone.
Nothing is locked or set in stone.
Alap just has to get to the final climb. Other doms can lead Evenpoel and Alap to the final climb. Then on the final climb, Alap can give his best 5 km and blow up, launching RE for the victory. He won't have to try and conserve energy like he did this year protecting his GC position.
I'd love those climbs in a GT, with the caveat being that there needs to be real TTs. I'm talking like a 7 km prologue, a 65km and a 55 km ITT in the race, with a 75 km TTT. Let Bernal come into a stage that goes over the Croix de Fer, Galiber, finishes at Jandri (the exact same stage as the infamous 1998 Pantani stage, except the finishing climb goes to the end instead of stopping at Le Deux Alpes) trailing Evenpoel by 7 minutes
- Jun 7, 2011
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You know i'm not the guy to "sell the bearskin before it is shot" (it's a Dutch saying, to not get ahead of oneself) but that ITT was only a 9k ITT. It was also prior to his 3rd place in the Belgian Nationals ITT, before his ECC ITT win, before his silver medal in the WCC ITT and his destructing ITT in San Juan. It's also not like he was completely blown away there. He finished 4th at 3 seconds of Wellens and 1 second behind Campenaerts.
Schachmann seems like a good ITT'er, but not worldclass like Remco has proven to be. He's only ever won one ITT, last year, of 11k. Two years ago, in Algarve, he lost 1m15s to Thomas. Unless Evenepoel has a complete off-day, crashes or has 2 punctures, i'm not seeing Schachmann take it away from him. And if he indeed crashes or punctures, it doesn't really matter how good Schachmann is, or who is next in GC.
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That TT was a prologue in length and he was 4 seconds off and he got off course. After the Tour of Belgium ITT, Remco was 3rd in Belgian ITT, 1st in the Euro TT, and 2nd in the W.C ITT.
1st in San Juan in 2020.
I don’t know how much Schachmann has improved on his ITT but he was around 48.3kph in 2018 on the same course.
Remco will likely go 51.5+ kph on the same course. So even if Schachmann does 49.5 kph he’s still going to lose by quite a bit.
This wasn’t a climb suited to an early attack as Lopez clearly showed. Waiting this long was the only option for Remco and after his failed experiments uphill in Turkey and Adriatica Ionica last year, he showed increased maturity. Long range attacks when he’s aiming for the GC will become rare.
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