one thing encouraging from Evenepoel is that at one point he was down about 18 seconds. He clawed back some of the time before the finish. Maybe he was approaching the red and just eased off a bit. Lived to fight another day (or in today's case, lived to fight in the next km)
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Right, and he was the guy leading the chase, so he can't have been spent fully.
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They brought 2 guys for GC and Masnada wasn't one of them. He may now see how far he can go considering Almeida is done. But it's utterly ridiculous to state that Evenepoel is "toyed with" since he loses 11s, and no longer an option but somehow in your deluded mind, Masnada who loses 1 minute 15 seconds is not "toyed with" and is a better bet. While Evenepoel is now 1m24s ahead of Masnada in GC. Stay away from drugs.
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From what he says after the race he's happy with the result. It was an effort where he had to go very deep for a short time, and he hadn't done such efforts in a long time. His body needs to adapt and get used to those efforts again. When the others attacked, how i understand it, he didn't even try to follow but chose to ride his own tempo.
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Evenepoel: "Reed eigen tempo, mijn lichaam moet hier nog aan wennen" | sporza
Remco Evenepoel moest in zijn eerste bergrit in 10 maanden tijd wennen aan het klimritme, maar het eindresultaat stemde hem gelukkig: "Over het algemeen ben ik tevreden."
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You make good points, you're probably right, but I don't see Remco with his aerodynamic frame having fun time on Zoncolan or stage 17, nor on treacherous descents. Masnada should play the Landa role and irritate the other teams
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I wouldn't mind, and it would probably be interesting for Evenepoel as well, if Masnada took over the role of Almeida. If only to be able to make tactical plays. But you can't say they toyed with Evenepoel because he lost 11s, and somehow think Masnada who lost a minute more, is better. That exactly the same as saying after today that Bennett has a better chance of winning the Giro than Bernal and Carthy. Doesn't make sense.
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Vuelta a Burgos 2020 - Stage 5 : Remco with a top shape on a short climb with similar slopes (4km 11%)
Result? Finishing at 11sec from the winner and not able to follow Landa's attack.
7 days later, humiliating the WT field in Poland.
What's coming in 7 days? The Montalcino stage... Just saying
Result? Finishing at 11sec from the winner and not able to follow Landa's attack.
7 days later, humiliating the WT field in Poland.
What's coming in 7 days? The Montalcino stage... Just saying
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Yeah, that's what it looked like. He never was able to put himself on the front of the group where he had been most of the day, so I think he was in some trouble frankly. Looked like he was fighting just to be there. I guess the question is whether he'll be able to round into more form or tire from deep efforts. It will be interesting.From what he says after the race he's happy with the result. It was an effort where he had to go very deep for a short time, and he hadn't done such efforts in a long time. His body needs to adapt and get used to those efforts again. When the others attacked, how i understand it, he didn't even try to follow but chose to ride his own tempo.
Evenepoel: "Reed eigen tempo, mijn lichaam moet hier nog aan wennen" | sporza
Remco Evenepoel moest in zijn eerste bergrit in 10 maanden tijd wennen aan het klimritme, maar het eindresultaat stemde hem gelukkig: "Over het algemeen ben ik tevreden."
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At least his presence makes the Giro a lot more exciting. So far it has been a very standard Giro without the Remco narrative imo.
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What do you expect? There was a time trial, won beautifully by the World Champion. Then a flat stage, won by Tim Merlier of Alpecin, a team which does a GT for the first time. Then a stage where Taco from Intermarché, the only WT team without a win, held off a closing peloton. And now a stage that was rather closely won by a guy from the break and where there were some smaller differences between the many major contenders, which already give us hints. I don't think one can complain in general?
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For whomever likes him, definitely. But i'm not sure if fans of George Bennett, Formolo, Bardet or whatever, are looking at it the same way. Could be, but your judgement and mine may be biased.
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Didn't think Masnada's leadership potential would be in this thread when I opened it.
Evenepoel impressed me today. He's a guy who learns from his mistakes. We saw that again today. He has frequently overestimated himself uphill (Ionica Adriatica, Turkey, last climb Burgos) and today he showed composure at exactly the right time during the final climb. He could have overstretched himself and lost a lot more time.
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Realistically this was really good. He can't possibly be in top shape yet after this preparation so will likely be much better in the 3rd week when it matters most. And if he is somewhere between the 5th and 10th best climber already he should be among the very best then.
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Personally I think this Giro is pretty standard so far. Not bad. Not boring. And personally I feel that having Remco there with an interesting narrative (will the prodigy come back strong?) makes it more exciting. Especially for fans, but I feel like even neutral observers can think that is an interesting narrative to follow. It makes it more exciting. It's definitely fair to raise other things that were exciting about this Giro but for me those are not enough to distinguish it yet. Also I bet you can make a similar post overselling each stage for other GT's you've seen. Like c'mon the Prologue really was not that special.
I think you are reading a bit too much into my comment. I even added an 'imo' at the end.
Of course this is coming from a fanboy, hence why I post it in this thread.
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lots of great points here.
it is unknown how remco will fare the rest of the way. yes, he could improve or he could have a day like almeida.
the key is he is nowhere near where he was stage 4 of poland last year -- dropping everyone (including simon yates) by a lot. that remco would have had no issue dictating the pace on the last climb today.
perfectly normal, considering where he is coming from.
whether remco can actually contend, i have my doubts.
however, i do hope we see the remco of stage 4 in poland before the end of the giro, just to know he is fully back.
it is unknown how remco will fare the rest of the way. yes, he could improve or he could have a day like almeida.
the key is he is nowhere near where he was stage 4 of poland last year -- dropping everyone (including simon yates) by a lot. that remco would have had no issue dictating the pace on the last climb today.
perfectly normal, considering where he is coming from.
whether remco can actually contend, i have my doubts.
however, i do hope we see the remco of stage 4 in poland before the end of the giro, just to know he is fully back.
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Obviously you are right. They should form Ineos-ish trains with Remco and Almeida pulling on the mountainstages for Masnada as he obviously is the true GC star of not only DQS but of this entire Giro.
Never mind the guy wearing the pink jersey for 15 days last year or the boy wonder from Belgium. If lefevre has any sence in him, he'd put all his eggs in Masnada's basket.
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Well you shouldn't sub-estimate the guy who is going to redefine the way a bicycle is ridden!!!
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Evenepoel performed well today, given the terrible circumstances (but the same for everybody) and the fact those are his first days of competition. But, as I wrote yesterday, the fact that he rode on a high rear the day before, in the uphills, wasn't a good sign. And he looked terrible in the final. Sunken eyes, dark bags under the eyes. But he showed character and drove wisely. If he can recover in the next, flat stage, he could maybe survive the next mountainstage at thursday. If it doesn't rain all day. He clearly has problems with that.
I also think he and his coach/fysical coach made a mistake by let him lose too much weight. In the Tour, where it is often hot, that's OK. But in Italy, the first half of May, it's often rainy and cold, especially in the mountains.
I also think he and his coach/fysical coach made a mistake by let him lose too much weight. In the Tour, where it is often hot, that's OK. But in Italy, the first half of May, it's often rainy and cold, especially in the mountains.
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Recent trend is for riders to come out of training camps in very good form, so I wouldn't be certain of the conventional wisdom of improvement with more racing kilometers being very applicable.
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No..not today...about 10 days ago. I'm just thinking that it may be too early for him to do a GT
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