Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Tonton]

5 Euros is dust when we see what's at stake.

It's a big, big day for Remco Evenepoel. Instead of a minute and change, tomorrow night he may rest on a two, maybe two and a half minute lead on the next GC rider.

There are still some tough stages to race, but with that kind of a buffer, hang on and soon enough watch them turn against each other.

 

[Carrick-On-Seine]

That's the fun of sports...we can go crazy for someone we like... Go Remco Go!!! Put the 5 Euros on Remco.

That adds to the fun. Once Roglic was confirmed as a starter Remco's odds went out to 5/1 so the winnings from my £5 stake will hopefully be spent on beers at the local ice hockey match the night the Vuelta finishes.

 

[LesDiablesRouges]

I'll admit I'm getting WAY ahead of myself, but assuming he hangs for the full 3 weeks, having Evenepoel, Pogačar, and Vingegaard (and Bernal as well?) tee off in a TdF in the next few years harkens back to '89 with Delgado, Fignon, and Lemond. Love the comments above from Big Coward about some reall TT distances. I don't think it would necessarily favor any of them, and would add to the difficulty, tension, and prestige of such an event. Could be amazing.

I'd go even further than the 80s and go back to late 60s and 70s with Merckx, Poulidor, Zoetemelk, Ocana, Van Impe, Thevenet, Gimondi. The current talent with Pogacar, Vingegaard, Bernal, Evenepoel, Ayuso, Rodrigues, Vine, Piddock, Uijtdebroeks, Baroncini, de Lie, Plapp, Tullet, Svreck, Hayter (2x), Fisher-Black, Vernon is remiscent of the Merckx era.

 

[Oldermanish]

I'd go even further than the 80s and go back to late 60s and 70s with Merckx, Poulidor, Zoetemelk, Ocana, Van Impe, Thevenet, Gimondi. The current talent with Pogacar, Vingegaard, Evenepoel, Ayuso, Rodrigues, Vine, Piddock, Uijtdebroeks, Baroncini, de Lie, Plapp, Tullet, Svreck, Hayter (2x), Fisher-Black, Vernon is remiscent of the Merckx era.

So Roglic isn't in your vision of what's happening? Seems like every name you mention is benchmarked on his influence as well.

 

[spalco]

So Roglic isn't in your vision of what's happening? Seems like every name you mention is benchmarked on his influence as well.

Roglic is 32, he could have a couple competitive years left, but he's more than a generation before all the others mentioned. Only Evans, Sastre and the unmentionable one have won Tours after that age in the modern era.

 

[dutchdescent]

Roglic is 32, he could have a couple competitive years left, but he's more than a generation before all the others mentioned. Only Evans, Sastre and the unmentionable one have won Tours after that age in the modern era.

Just to be clear. Is the unmentionable one Froomey or Armstrong? See what I did there?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

5 Euros is dust when we see what's at stake.

It's a big, big day for Remco Evenepoel. Instead of a minute and change, tomorrow night he may rest on a two, maybe two and a half minute lead on the next GC rider.

There are still some tough stages to race, but with that kind of a buffer, hang on and soon enough watch them turn against each other.

That's what i described in another thread. Soon Yates will chase Almeida and Mas will chase Ayuso. Especially when those guys are 3-5 minutes down on Remco.

 

[search]

Was he always supposed to do the ITT at the Worlds? There won't be much time to prepare for that, arriving only two or three days before the start.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Florecita was easier on the eyes but I agree with the rest.

Was she though? Logic is more often that not applying actual logic to his arguments, whereas LF and the Contador-gang were desperately clinging on to something that wasn't there anymore and more often than not was hysterical and delusional.

 

[masking_agent]

I'm a little late in the game with regards to Remco. But I thought he was a single day race rider and not a grand tour contender ? Does anyone know if he specifically set out to change his body type and become a tour contender ? When did the happen ? thanks for your help.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

I'm a little late in the game with regards to Remco. But I thought he was a single day race rider and not a grand tour contender ? Does anyone know if he specifically set out to change his body type and become a tour contender ? When did the happen ? thanks for your help.

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Ever since he was a junior he has said he wanted to be a GT contender. He has always been a GC rider, having won 9 GC's already in 1 week races. He is a small, light, compact TT'er and uses those qualities for solo attacks in classics, and in TT's and climbing stages in stageraces.

 

[Wvv]

Halfway through the Vuelta and his gap is 2'41'' on Roglic.

So curious about the coming days.

 

[Oldermanish]

Remco delivered today. Roglic was good, not his best but improving. Remco should have this under control barring any catastrophe and it'll be well earned.

 

[Hugo Koblet]

I'm a little late in the game with regards to Remco. But I thought he was a single day race rider and not a grand tour contender ? Does anyone know if he specifically set out to change his body type and become a tour contender ? When did the happen ? thanks for your help.

You would be right. So far at least. He has performed the best in one day races so far, while he hasn't really delivered in stage races on the big scene. However, I think most always believed that he eventually would become a great Grand Tour rider.

I also think that he lost a lot of weight since the spring, so you're right on the body transformation part as well.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Remco delivered today. Roglic was good, not his best but improving. Remco should have this under control barring any catastrophe and it'll be well earned.

If you took Remco out of the equation, would anybody really be saying Roglic isn't good? He'd be ahead of Mas, and Mas wouldn't have gained over a minute on Roglic on Pico Jano by getting dragged up the climb by Evenepoel. Roglic would, just like previous years, be in the lead by a minute and a half.

I also think that he lost a lot of weight since the spring, so you're right on the body transformation part as well.

Weight he gained since 2020/2021 now lost again... so not really though.

 

[Riek s]

I'm not sure if Roglic was bad, its not like he is that much better than Cavagna on this type of parcour.

Remco way better than i expected on part 1.

The fact he can still delier such a TT on stage 10 means his fatigue is still very ok.

 

[IndianCyclist]

Three things can stop Remco now. Covid, Crash and Conceit

 

[houtdffan]

not sure covid would stop Remco. May have the "low viral load" excuse if he tests positive

 

[Oldermanish]

If you took Remco out of the equation, would anybody really be saying Roglic isn't good? He'd be ahead of Mas, and Mas wouldn't have gained over a minute on Roglic on Pico Jano by getting dragged up the climb by Evenepoel. Roglic would, just like previous years, be in the lead by a minute and a half.


Weight he gained since 2020/2021 now lost again... so not really though.

Did anyone here say Roglic wasn't good? I didn't catch that. If Remco wasn't at the Vuelta it would be a different race....so that's irrelevant.
Try to enjoy the moment.

 

[Extinction]

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Ever since he was a junior he has said he wanted to be a GT contender. He has always been a GC rider, having won 9 GC's already in 1 week races. He is a small, light, compact TT'er and uses those qualities for solo attacks in classics, and in TT's and climbing stages in stageraces.

I presume it was trolling.

 

[Jagartrott]

Surprisingly many covid-positives in the Vuelta peloton, at a time when there aren't that many infections in the general public. It'd be stupid if he'd have to leave for this reason.

 

[Salvarani]

Surprisingly many covid-positives in the Vuelta peloton, at a time when there aren't that many infections in the general public. It'd be stupid if he'd have to leave for this reason.

It is definitely increasing though. At least in my country, even if it is not big news anymore.

 

[Extinction]

In any case, there are still so many climbs left in this race. One bad day and the tables could turn. On the other hand, whose to say the excessive vertical pedalling won't just destroy all those who are washed up in the young Belgian's wake? Whatever the case may be, this course seems to be an endless array of potential leg breaking obstacles, which transform circles into squares, before Madrid!

 

[SHAD0W93]

Surprisingly many covid-positives in the Vuelta peloton, at a time when there aren't that many infections in the general public. It'd be stupid if he'd have to leave for this reason.

How many people are actually testing though? At work they went from testing everyone to just those showing sings and symptoms. How many have take home tests that don’t go to the hospital or report it?

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Did anyone here say Roglic wasn't good? I didn't catch that. If Remco wasn't at the Vuelta it would be a different race....so that's irrelevant.
Try to enjoy the moment.

I'm not going to go through the trouble of reading how people exactly formulated it. Not fit, not as good as usual, still suffering from his crash... however it was put. In the past years Remco wasn't at the Vuelta, so as an exercise it is interesting to hypothesise if Roglic was better the past years than he is now. Two years ago he needed all the bonis he could get to beat Carapaz. Last year he was less than 30s ahead of... Mas, after stage 10. So without Evenepoel, Mas would not have taken (as much) time on Roglic on stage 6, and without Evenepoel Roglic would have won the TT and would have taken the lead by a lot more than the same time last year.