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Didinho

Didinho

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Cookster15 said:
If it’s illness then that is an interesting and unique aspect of grand tour bike racing. You don’t let your rivals know for sure you are sick as that will encourage them to attack. I think Roglic and Ineos will attack to get time before he possibly recovers.
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That uphill sprint 2 days ago. Maybe Roglic noticed something odd about Remco at the finish is my guess. Okay that 5min steep hill was right up Roglic's ally, but to go from the bottom immediately was a surprise for me. I think Roglic saw/knew something and went all out. That sprint was very unnecessary if he's ill.
But it could also just be that Roglic felt so strong and tried his luck early on to get some time back before today.

These sick/pain things is probably for us to know after the Giro, now they just say what you have to say so they won't attack. Hide all the things.
 
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Extinction

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In any case, the Giro is shaking up, as usual, to be the most unpredictable GT. Before the really big mountain stages everything is up for grabs and, even if someone comes to the fore on Crans Montagna, there is no gaurantee he can come through week three still in pink. This is why the Giro is a monstrous affair. And if the weather is bad, we could be in for an epic scenario.
 
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Lequack

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Me when I realize it's Monday again tomorrow

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Red Rick

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Gigs_98 said:
I don't know. Taking his first time split as the reference for his pacing plan seems pretty arbitrary to me. If he realized he cannot go as fast as planned he might have reduced his pace after 2km already for all we know. After all it's not like he blew himself up, riding the final part at the same pace as Thomas.

About the why, I just can't think it's anything other than the crashes, maybe together with other factors like high pressure and bad weather wearing him down. The recent comparisons to the last two stages (stage 1 and LBL) are just too on the nose to ignore. You don't just go from arguably the most dominant performance in a hilly classic in a decade to being dropped by multiple guys on the exact same kind of climb. Just like you don't just go from putting half a minute to a minute into all your opponents in an 18 km TT just to be on par with them in one twice as long. If you think he peaked too early than maybe that's a 2nd explanation, but I simply cannot believe a rider in the modern peloton would mess up his peak that badly.

And on another note, as the comparison to his 3rd week in the Vuelta, where he bounced back from suffering in the 2nd week, is quite obvious, I'm a little sad we didn't get to see another all out battle in that 3rd week as a reference point. Sure, he looked pretty good again, even winning one of the stages, but he didn't have another climbing performance like in week 1 where he was really climbing head and shoulders above his competition. We don't really know if he was actually back to his week 1 level in week 3.
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1. He won Liege last year coming off getting destroyed in the final day of Itzulia. Without Pog or arguably Rog, he can win that race without top form
2. If he realised he couldn't do the pace after 2km then he would've had to readjust multiple times cause otherwise the difference between T1 and T2 wouldn't have been as sharp.
3. Liege hills are less fresh than I Cappucini, which normally favors Evenepoel, and I think Evenepoel is really good coming off of days of no racing, but you can't be that fresh in a GT.

I see Evenepoel as primarily having great 5 minute hill reps or in the case of big climb it's more like 1 30 minute W/kg burst, with perhaps not the best climbing when everyone is doing low numbers. I'm still not honeslty sure how high I should rate his Vuelta, especially that stage 6-9 stretch.
 
SHAD0W93

SHAD0W93

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I think a positive from this stage that fans and detractors are overlooking is Evenepoel still won the stage and gained time on everyone. Now, it was certainly not the amount of time that he would have liked nor am I sure did he expect to be this fatigued after the fact. But whatever the reason; crashes, illness, fatigue, and/or form dropping he still in the moment of feeling all of that won. While that may not come into play this Giro, it could in future GTs of everything going against you but you knowing you can mentally push on to overcome it. We’ve already seen a great champion crumble after finding out how much time he was losing in a time trial.
 
Red Rick

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SHAD0W93 said:
I think a positive from this stage that fans and detractors are overlooking is Evenepoel still won the stage and gained time on everyone. Now, it was certainly not the amount of time that he would have liked nor am I sure did he expect to be this fatigued after the fact. But whatever the reason; crashes, illness, fatigue, and/or form dropping he still in the moment of feeling all of that won. While that may not come into play this Giro, it could in future GTs of everything going against you but you knowing you can mentally push on to overcome it. We’ve already seen a great champion crumble after finding out how much time he was losing in a time trial.
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He was 5 seconds off the top vs one of the worlds top 5 minute W/kg climber, he cannot be terrible that's for sure.
 
Andre

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HelloDolly said:
Anyone know what Geraint Thomas's unflattering nickname is for Remco ?

As for Remco and this Giro ...his fans on here are insane . Its he is either going to win everything in sight and trash everyone (which is super annoying to have in your face all the time) or he is going to lose everything and its a disaster

Can you not stop the histrionics. There is a long way to go yet and even another TT. no one has lost or won the Giro
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thank you for your contribution...don't let us Remco fans get on your nerves, you can just read the post from those who dislike Remco.
Go Remco Go!!!
 
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