Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Mayomaniac]

I think he just waists too much energy on a circuit like today when he has to ride in the bunch because of his bike handling skills.

 

[Berniece]

WVA is riding the TT and i think he was really good today.. (as understatement )

Sure, but he never wins gold so we can take him out of the pool of possible winners

 

[Rackham]

There was a conversation a while back about Evenepoel's ITT superiority over a longer distance. This World ITT is just under 48km, so it'll be an interesting case study for future reference (like in a GT 'if' the organisers decide to reintroduce long ITT's again in the coming years).

 

[Krzysztof_O]

There was a conversation a while back about Evenepoel's ITT superiority over a longer distance. This World ITT is just under 48km, so it'll be an interesting case study for future reference (like in a GT 'if' the organisers decide to reintroduce long ITT's again in the coming years).

Its a different situation though. Esp in 3rd week of GT when Skeletor still has fresh as daisy wattage.

 

[Rackham]

Its a different situation though. Esp in 3rd week of GT when Skeletor still has fresh as daisy wattage.

Maybe but I'm still super curious to see how he goes over 48km against the likes of Ganna & co.

And for me it's not so much the race situation which is really different in a GT but also the 'outside influence' stuff as well, which in this instance right now is the most stupidest thing aka Evenepoel's Patrick versus Patrick very public problem yesterday, which can't be helping his preparations at all.

 

[SHAD0W93]

Would have liked him to win or be closer but as was said before the race, was far too technical for him so he tried setting it up for WVA and the team. The TT was his big goal and I think he’ll win but if rain occurs could make it harder.

 

[peterfin]

I think he just waists too much energy on a circuit like today when he has to ride in the bunch because of his bike handling skills.

He said he lost energy due to the succession of short uphill sprints. He lost places as he was doing 200 watt less than the punchy riders on these short climbs. If he could attack he could caverage out his efforts better. In any case, on this circuit with almost no long stretches to get in a decent pace it would have been very difficult. So it ended up as a battle between the best punchers of the world.

 

[Oldermanish]

Evenepoel should be heavily favored over Van Aert in the ITT IMO

Unless his result today was due to him Saving himself for the ITT I wouldn't take the current state of affairs as favoring him or Wout. Someone else will be fresher and surprise us.

 

[Panda Claws]

Evenepoel should be heavily favored over Van Aert in the ITT IMO

Bruh if Evenepoel ends up beating WvA for 1st by just a few seconds...

 

[danielovichdk2]

 

[joseph89]

Evenepoel: “It is distressing that, despite a good period, something negative always has to come up. It's like I can never do anything right. That hurts a bit, but that's the life that was given to me from the beginning of my career with the pros."

 

[Cookster15]

For the ITT, looks like Filippo Ganna is flying with his individual pursuit win. How is Ganna in the wet? Can he push Remco?

 

[Berniece]

Evenepoel: “It is distressing that, despite a good period, something negative always has to come up. It's like I can never do anything right. That hurts a bit, but that's the life that was given to me from the beginning of my career with the pros."

What was he referring to?

 

[Red Rick]

Unless his result today was due to him Saving himself for the ITT I wouldn't take the current state of affairs as favoring him or Wout. Someone else will be fresher and surprise us.

I don't base it on the road race at all. They've correlated pretty poorly on past WCs IMO.

I just think Van Aerts TTs this year have been less impressive than last year.

 

[Berflamand]

I always feared the circuit was going to be too technical for Remco to be able to win but his cornering/positioning was worse than I thought (or hoped). I thought he had made more progression in that regard the past years.

Does this say anything about his chances for a potential RVV bid (given that the first four of this WC are basically always the main protagonists in the RVV)? I know there are obviously many more moments in the RVV where he can unleash his strengths but my main worry remains his positioning which is crucial in a hectic RVV.

 

[Red Rick]

I always feared the circuit was going to be too technical for Remco to be able to win but his cornering/positioning was worse than I thought (or hoped). I thought he had made more progression in that regard the past years.

Does this say anything about his chances for a potential RVV bid (given that the first four of this WC are basically always the main protagonists in the RVV)? I know there are obviously many more moments in the RVV where he can unleash his strengths but my main worry remains his positioning which is crucial in a hectic RVV.

RvV should be less technical, but it's still a big problem. Sanremo too.

 

[Peter von]

I always feared the circuit was going to be too technical for Remco to be able to win but his cornering/positioning was worse than I thought (or hoped). I thought he had made more progression in that regard the past years.

Does this say anything about his chances for a potential RVV bid (given that the first four of this WC are basically always the main protagonists in the RVV)? I know there are obviously many more moments in the RVV where he can unleash his strengths but my main worry remains his positioning which is crucial in a hectic RVV.

tough to say. the lad is still only 23 so I wouldn't rule him out as a future Flanders winner. He needs to work on those aspects of his game for sure, but that is also possible.

 

[Prim]

What was he referring to?

His cornering and bikehandling skills being too weak to defend his title?

 

[joseph89]

What was he referring to?

Think he was referring to how his achievements are always overshadowed by something negative. ie the transfer drama

 

[joseph89]

It kind of feels like if remco doesn't live up to expectations, people are quick to gloat and point out he's not good enough. We live in a microwave generation where he's only as good as his last performance.

 

[Netserk]

To expand: Bambi is not avoiding risks. Bambi is not even particularly afraid. Bambi on ice is out of his element. Bambi is not a natural, Bambi is awkward.

Is it legitimate to mock a rider for being a Bambi? Absolutely. If you may praise a rider for having skills and for being a natural (see MvdP and Sagan), the flip side is that you may mock those who lack those qualities. Just as other riders, like Froome, have been mocked for the qualities they lacked.

The tragic death of another rider is completely irrelevant to that.

To those who have questioned the merits of calling him Bambi, I think yesterday proved why it makes sense.

Pogi on the other hand could fend for himself and easily get in position and around the course.

 

[Valanga]

Is it legitimate to mock a rider for being a Bambi? Absolutely. If you may praise a rider for having skills and for being a natural (see MvdP and Sagan), the flip side is that you may mock those who lack those qualities. Just as other riders, like Froome, have been mocked for the qualities they lacked.

And that's such a weird reasoning. It's one thing to praise someone, it's a whole other thing to mock someone who can't be praised for something ... that has nothing to do with being the flip side and says more about you than about the rider you're trying to mock.

Cycling always had controversial actors of course, but usually as a cycling fan it was more about cheering for you favorite, and not about trying to diminish the ones you don't favor. That's something I more associate with soccer.

 

[peterfin]

To those who have questioned the merits of calling him Bambi, I think yesterday proved why it makes sense.

Pogi on the other hand could fend for himself and easily get in position and around the course.

If you read his comments you would understand that he had issues with the succession of explosive climbs. He was not outclassed due to lack of technical skills. He doesn't have the technical skills of WVA or MVDP but Pogi neither.

 

[Red Rick]

If you read his comments you would understand that he had issues with the succession of explosive climbs. He was not outclassed due to lack of technical skills. He doesn't have the technical skills of WVA or MVDP but Pogi neither.

I see no reason to treat Evenepoels post race interview as gospel here. He's not gonna wanna highlight and shout out to the world that "Hey my cornering, positioning and descending still sucks"

 

[Netserk]

If you read his comments you would understand that he had issues with the succession of explosive climbs. He was not outclassed due to lack of technical skills. He doesn't have the technical skills of WVA or MVDP but Pogi neither.