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Netserk

Netserk

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Logic-is-your-friend said:
Man, you have to read before you respond to something. As AMracer and Netserk pointed out, Jorgenson did not win deservedly, because Vinge and Pog were not here.
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If you want to make up what I wrote, you might as well claim again that someone called you a racist bigot out of the blue.

None of the other three examples you compared this to was about riders with a different schedule. It didn't matter one bit that neither Pogi nor Vingegaard chose to start the 2022 Vuelta.
 
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Oldermanish

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Logic-is-your-friend said:
Man, you have to read before you respond to something. As AMracer and Netserk pointed out, Jorgenson did not win deservedly, because Vinge and Pog were not here.
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Oh, of course. My mistake. I was responding to a different person suffering from deep cycling myopia. Just trying to help out of fellow forumer with some words from Remco. Hopefully they'd accept an opinion from him because, ya know; he saw that race.
 
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jmdirt said:
The reason oldermanish can claim that is because MJ has been improving, as you said, slowly, but made some significant gains last year. Sure his new team is adding to his gains, but are they really that good that they made HUGE gains in a few months of off season coaching?
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All the doubters need to do is watch 2023 Tour: Puy de Dome stage. They'll have more than an hour to watch how he demonstrated potential. No Jumbo Visma there.
 
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Logic-is-your-friend

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Netserk said:
None of the other three examples you compared this to was about riders with a different schedule. It didn't matter one bit that neither Pogi nor Vingegaard chose to start the 2022 Vuelta.
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I was not sure before, but so it seems that you are actually serious. It makes your IQ post all the more hysterical. Will try to break it down for you so it is easy enough to understand.
AMracer posted 3 races Evenepoel won, with excuses why he won (insinuating he didn't win fair and square as opposed to Jorgenson winning PN). Whether that was somebody crashing out, not starting or having a bad prep (in a jail cel) that should be besides the point, no? Then he posts Jorgenson winning PN fair and square. Even if you deem the reasons why Evenepoel was not competitive enough in PN as "not the same" (it's no different, but whatever, i'll play along).

Please keep up Netserk, here comes the kicker.
Pog wasn't at PN :fearscream:
Vinge wasn't at PN :fearscream:
Buitrago crashed in PN :fearscream:

So, following AMracer and your logical deduction, we have to conclude that Jorgenson did not win PN fair and square.
 
Netserk

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Logic-is-your-friend said:
I was not sure before, but so it seems that you are actually serious. It makes your IQ post all the more hysterical. Will try to break it down for you so it is easy enough to understand.
AMracer posted 3 races Evenepoel won, with excuses why he won (insinuating he didn't win fair and square as opposed to Jorgenson winning PN). Whether that was somebody crashing out, not starting or having a bad prep (in a jail cel) that should be besides the point, no? Then he posts Jorgenson winning PN fair and square. Even if you deem the reasons why Evenepoel was not competitive enough in PN as "not the same" (it's no different, but whatever, i'll play along).

Please keep up Netserk, here comes the kicker.
Pog wasn't at PN :fearscream:
Vinge wasn't at PN :fearscream:
Buitrago crashed in PN :fearscream:

So, following AMracer and your logical deduction, we have to conclude that Jorgenson did not win PN fair and square.
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No, your direct rival Rogla suffering from crashing out of the Tour and later crashing out of the Vuelta after dropping Evenepoel twice in the high mountains is not the same as Vingegaard and Pogi never starting the Vuelta in 2022.

Accidents outside the control of Rogla, MvdP & Pogi were the lucky circumstances of Evenepoel's victories.

Pogi and Vingegaard never had Paris-Nice in their schedule this year, so of course it doesn't matter that they are not here. Buitrago crashed (twice), and that is indeed a lucky incidence for Jorgenson, but he was already dropped by him when that happened, and his first crash was his own error.

Logic-is-your-friend said:
So, following AMracer and your logical deduction, we have to conclude that Jorgenson did not win PN fair and square.
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Misattribution again. Quote me for that claim.

It's boring to have a conversation with someone who has a conversation with himself.
 
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Logic-is-your-friend said:
So excuses when Evenepoel wins, but when he loses the other was better lol.

LBL Evenepoel won fair and square
Vuelta Evenepoel won fair and square
WCC Evenepoel won fair and square
PN Jorgenson won fair and square

LBL, no Poggi
Vuelta Rogla got crashed out
WCC, MvdP had his personal issues.
PN Evenepoel had not done altitude and his DS messed up tactically
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And why the blame is on DS, but not on Remco himself?
 
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