Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Extinction]

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This is not Zwift, this is road racing. Cornering is part of the game.

Read again mate, I acknowledge Remco didn't go technically well, which though only reiterates how much more power he has.

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

Remco remco remco remco remco remco remco remco remco remco remco remco

Are you practicing your spelling?

 

[Sandisfan]

Remco remco remco remco remco remco remco remco remco remco remco remco

Are you practicing your spelling?

I never noticed till now that his first name reads like a company name that is an acronym.

 

[Ripper]

I have trouble turning over a 52!! Remco riding a 60 tooth chainring!!the guy is an absolute monster.. A human spark plug, and he was up and out of the saddle after every corner to get back on it..his cadence was breathtaking!! Guy rides a bike like he is being chased by people trying to kill him. The race organizers have it down because if they had 30 second splits that race would have been way,way,way better!! My only beef is no Ganna.they should close up the splits so riders see each other and get passed..!!

+1000

 

[topt]

Ok, maybe i was a bit overenthusiastic😅 But, you have to remember that he lost 5-10 seconds on the flat run in(time and flow) in this «fake» puncture/jumping back wheel situation and still Pog lost time the last 4-5k..I am still quite sure that Pog would have lost around 1,5-2s per k on a flat TT to Remco!

5-10 secs, he he, really.....

 

[topt]

Pff, won't say that to be honest, 20 seconds better than Roglic & Vingegaard. Remco impressive, only lost some time in the descent. I see the haters are already downplaying him, but he's on schedule for a top-3. Hope he survives Troyes.

oh , you see that as a problem in this thread not the other way around

 

[topt]

Great TT by Evenepoel. It’ll be great if he can keep it together in the mountains with Pogacar and Vingegaard possibly fading from the Giro and crash.

than what will happen ?Remco winning ?

 

[dennisdy]

than what will happen ?Remco winning ?

There are five stages with mountain finishes (11, 14, 15, 19 +20). If he can beat Pogacar and Vingegaard on these stages he will deserve to win. But their record on mountain finishes is excellent and well-established.

 

[Pantani_lives]

Winning an ITT in the Tour is a landmark in a career. He was the stage favorite, but it still has to happen for real.

The dangerous stages are tomorrow, the Pyrenees and the queen stage to Isola 2000. If he can avoid a bad day there, a podium place and the white jersey seem realistic.

The remcomania is coming!

 

[Netserk]

I'm surprised by the number of posters who thought he'd win by 30" in 25 km.

 

[AmRacer]

I'm surprised by the number of posters who thought he'd win by 30" in 25 km.

Only Pogacar within 30 sec

 

[Netserk]

Only Pogacar within 30 sec

So? He was the one he needed to beat with 30" to win the stage by that amount. Pogi was the second biggest favourite for the stage. Or do you think people expected him to DNF?

 

[AmRacer]

So? He was the one he needed to beat with 30" to win the stage by that amount. Pogi was the second biggest favourite for the stage. Or do you think people expected him to DNF?

Only 1 rider within 30 sec, Remco almost did it. Winning the stage by 30.

 

[Netserk]

Only 1 rider within 30 sec, Remco almost did it. Winning the stage by 30.

No, 12" is not almost 30".

It's like saying Kwiatkowski almost won with a long solo in 2020 stage 18.

 

[Berniece]

I'm surprised by the number of posters who thought he'd win by 30" in 25 km.

I was more surprised by the number of posters thinking Pogacar would win. I said he would lose 18s, 12 isn’t that far off, even more so if you take his fake flat tire into account

 

[AmRacer]

No, 12" is not almost 30".

It's like saying Kwiatkowski almost won with a long solo in 2020 stage 18.

1 rider out of the whole peloton is almost everyone.

 

[DoYouEvenRideBruh]

I never noticed till now that his first name reads like a company name that is an acronym.

REM Co.

Producing long cycling solos that put you straight into the rem phase

 

[AmRacer]

REM Co.

Producing long cycling solos that put you straight into the rem phase

REM sleep?

 

[Unterlenkerfahrend]

I'm surprised by the number of posters who thought he'd win by 30" in 25 km.

If he does the descent better (and I mean the actual descent where he was descending like my grandma not just the difference between T2 and T3 where he got a bit back on the flat part just before T3) and doesn't have that wobble at the end (he also lost a bit in the final corners) it would've been 20+ seconds, so not that outrageous to think beforehand that he might take 30 seconds on Pogacar with just a brief look at the course.

Before the race I thought 20 seconds to Pog and 40 seconds to Vingegaard would happen, it's also a bit tricky to evaluate Pogacar because he has been fluctuating quite a bit in TTs in these last few years and by his own account wasn't happy for a while befor doing the very good Giro ITTs.

 

[peterfin]

What impressed me most sofar is Remco's sustainable speed on flats, climbs and non-technical decents versus the other big 3. I am talking specifically about stage 2, 4 and the TT. He loses time in technical parts and I have the impression it's at least partly because he wants to avoid risks. He also lacks the punch a bit versus his best mountain sprints in the past but that may be partly because he is focussed on not going in the red too much. He looks good sofar, better than many anticipated.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

He loses time in technical parts and I have the impression it's at least partly because he wants to avoid risks.

He goes into corners completely wrong. He actually takes MORE risks by going into corners the way he does.

Because the trajectory outward is bound to go wider when you move to the inside too soon, which he does. He takes his corners slower and more dangerously. He needs to stick to the outside corner WAY longer. First of all, you get a much better overview of the corner and the way the road bends going out of the corner, secondly you get to brake later and keep your speed higher throughout the corner and lastly you are reducing the risk going wide out of the corner by a shitton.

These are all things the team said they'd make sure to teach him back in 2021, and supposedly he'd get some lessons by Cal Crutchlow in cornering at high speeds (which would help him out a ton in both descends as well as TT's). Never happened. They thought his technique was good enough. Had it been good enough, he would hardly have lost time to Pogacar after Galibier other than boni seconds, and he would have taken more time in the TT. A difference between being 33s behind in GC, or being 5s ahead in GC. But everything is fine.

Here is a rudimentary graphic to show what happens. The green and red lines are identical in curve. The green one maximizes the corner and will give you the shortest distance for the highest speed, good overview and less risk. If you try to retain that speed (both in and out of the corner) while cutting into your corner too soon, which i have seen Evenepoel do repeatedly, what happens is you go wide and crash out of the corner. The only way to make up for that (green dotted line), is by braking much harder into the corner (or go into the corner at a much lower speed), losing all your momentum going out of the corner, because you need to take the second part of your corner much tighter, and waste a lot more energy accelerating out of the corner. All the while you have a worse overview of where your corner is going.

He takes more risks, he loses a lot of speed, he wastes a lot of energy.

 

[Froome]

After what Evenepoel did, Herbalife wants Evenepoel for being the face of the company!

Now seriously, very good perfomance yesterday. Probably he is in the shape of his life.
I always thought in dauphine, that he was doing the proper preparation, building more slowly.

 

[velaso montador]

His TT position is art and work of true perfection.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1809523517886505383

View: https://x.com/lucasaganronald/status/1809523517886505383

 

[Le Grand Doop]

Probably he is in the shape of his life.

hard to know if he is better than first 10 days of 2022 Vuelta (pre-crash) - we will see.

I always thought in dauphine, that he was doing the proper prepartion, building more slowly.

but wasn't that out of necessity due to the crash? not really all going to plan. my concern is the imperfect prep may result in that one really bad day.

If he wants top 5 (or even top 10) he cannot have a tourmalet 2023 Vuelta day -- not even close.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

His TT position is art and work of true perfection.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1809523517886505383

View: https://x.com/lucasaganronald/status/1809523517886505383

His position is one thing. What makes it so impressive is that he barely moves around on his bike, stays perfectly still, while putting out insane power. And the fact that he can keep in this position for entire TT's.