which is why I said he should have went ahead of the peloton when he caught back up. Keep up his own pace. Maybe he could have started Hautacam 30 seconds ahead
which is why I said he should have went ahead of the peloton when he caught back up. Keep up his own pace. Maybe he could have started Hautacam 30 seconds ahead
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Wellens was literally deathpulling in the peloton on the flats and very first part of Hautacam
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Oh well, looks like Remco will have 5 more TT's ahead in this Tour.
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That Wellens is so much better now, says more about his time at Lotto than about UAE's trainers. It was super obvious imo that he was just living an 'easy' life at Lotto, making money and not challenging himself (enough) anymore. Why didn't he do heat training for example before? It's not like UAE invented it this year.
More than anything, it seems like riding for/with a super champion like Pogacar, gave him this extra boost of motivation to push his boundaries. Meanwhile you see the opposite at SQS. No one is really pulling the cart, nor does the atmosphere within the team appear to be as it used to be, and it reflects on the level of everyone.
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Look if you can't be *** to do heat training when you're leader on your own team then that's just terrible professionalism.
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he had to recover as long as possible in the wheels after the effort to catch up. he is clearly very human (and that is part of his appeal tbh).
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What will maybe help remco is if Visma change tactics. If they ride slower towards last climb.
I mean no point for Visma to continue tactics. Pogacar might want to keep it hard. But he might also prefer to just consolidate and beat the rest on the final mountain after a relative easier start of the stage.
I mean no point for Visma to continue tactics. Pogacar might want to keep it hard. But he might also prefer to just consolidate and beat the rest on the final mountain after a relative easier start of the stage.
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I should perhaps re-phrase. Maybe he did *some* before, but he took it to a completely different level this year, as he said after the Nationals.
Edit: can you fully blame him though? He wasn't going to win the Tour or whatever big race anyway. If you then race with a team that pays pretty well, you have a good life etc., you need some good incentive to walk away from that. Not everyone is Victor Campenaerts.
"Some teams rode today as if they were there to support Pogacar and UAE" - Remco Evenepoel critical after surviving stage 12 with Tour de France podium intact
After being dropped worryingly early on stage 12 of the 2025 Tour de France, Remco Evenepoel showed a lot of heart and maturity to ride at his own pace, limit losses and keep his podium hopes intact. ...
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not sure Remco sounds confident
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Sounds like he had a bad day. Hope that's all it was. If he can defend the rest of the race, he can hang on to the podium. Lipo the only real threat left unless Remco loses it again."Some teams rode today as if they were there to support Pogacar and UAE" - Remco Evenepoel critical after surviving stage 12 with Tour de France podium intact
After being dropped worryingly early on stage 12 of the 2025 Tour de France, Remco Evenepoel showed a lot of heart and maturity to ride at his own pace, limit losses and keep his podium hopes intact. ...
not sure Remco sounds confident
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Don't think it was a bad day, but just his level. I can see him lose a lot more time later in the TDF if his legs are already feeling heavy
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At the same time, i think mentally he'll remember today. He continued to push and (temporarily) saved podium.
Had he stopped pushing all that was left were breakaways and prep for whatever comes after the tour.
Now he has something left to fight for. Aside from stage wins.
So even though it might be a blow towards future GT ambitions vs Pogacar, Vingegaard. It can also help him if he ever has another bad day. To stay mentally strong and as a result physically in the fight. Ofcourse he prob. can't afford another day like today during this GT if he wants to fight for podium. But in field without Pogacar, this might help him stay in a GT battle in the future.
Had he stopped pushing all that was left were breakaways and prep for whatever comes after the tour.
Now he has something left to fight for. Aside from stage wins.
So even though it might be a blow towards future GT ambitions vs Pogacar, Vingegaard. It can also help him if he ever has another bad day. To stay mentally strong and as a result physically in the fight. Ofcourse he prob. can't afford another day like today during this GT if he wants to fight for podium. But in field without Pogacar, this might help him stay in a GT battle in the future.
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I don‘t know, he clearly had some issue on Soulor, supposedly he overheated even though that climb was well-shaded. If he hadn‘t wasted so much energy coming back from that crisis, he would have finished better today.
Don't know why exactly he should sound confident. It's really weird, looked like he was heading for a major bonk like in the Vuelta '23 but in the end he managed to limit the damages against 'his' opponents Lipo, Onley and Johannesen. It seems to me he is always focused on his watt-meter and he doesn't dare to go over his limit. Maybe it proved to be a good strategy today. Tomorrow we will know more; if he ends up 3d, I think he is main contender for the lowest podium place. If he again loses time against the 3 forementioned riders, he maybe should try to win stages."Some teams rode today as if they were there to support Pogacar and UAE" - Remco Evenepoel critical after surviving stage 12 with Tour de France podium intact
After being dropped worryingly early on stage 12 of the 2025 Tour de France, Remco Evenepoel showed a lot of heart and maturity to ride at his own pace, limit losses and keep his podium hopes intact. ...
not sure Remco sounds confident
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You don't overheat halfway a climb and then recover and go do it all over again. Usually you just blow up.
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He did not sound that confident. Said it was all he could do today. To ride the way he did. Could not keep the pace.
He just sounds hopeful that if this was his bad day, that he can still podium. That he managed to salvage a podium fight.
Which is true. Ofcourse. Time will tell if this was a one/off. first real mountain stage. Or if today's showing is a sign of further things to come. Obviously i'm hoping he'll bounce back. It's been done before.
As already mentioned. and stated before the tour, i believed Pogacar would be throwing minutes around. And as such 1 bad day need not immediately needed to spell doom & gloom for podium/top 5. I genuinely hopes he continues to try and ride for a good GC. especially with stage 18 & 19 being so hard. Stage wins are nice, but i personally always thought them just bonus in GC battles. I know that's my isolated opinion, and ppl would do anything for a stage win in the TDF. But that's my viewpoint. Now of course i take a stage win over top 15 spot. But it gets debatable for me from Top 8 onwards.
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Lance (yeah, I know) had some pointed comments about the transfer today. That if he doesn't podium, or clearly beat someone like Lipo, that will have a significant, material impact on his transfer (or not) and the value thereof.
This is probably what the Abisque day would have been had he been riding for the podium at the 2023 Vuelta
Instead, he had already made up his mind to go for stages
Instead, he had already made up his mind to go for stages
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I wonder if the heat has played a role in these bad days. Both Remco and Mateo were unexpectedly off the pace. I didn't see much shade today, especially not on the Solour.
What are everyone's thoughts on the time trial? How do you think Remco and his skill set do with the mountain course?
He did struggle with heat in Suisse 2023 on one of the stages, right?
He did get a lot of bottles from both car and moto by the images. Didnt drink enough on the flat or cooled down every one and then? Was he too cooked by the sun/heat already by arriving to first climb? Recovered and maybe dealt with the heat bit better later.
Like his legs seemed decent in the end. He didnt collapse completely, after dropping quite early. Compared to other guys.
It is an odd one but there may be some explanations for it.
He did get a lot of bottles from both car and moto by the images. Didnt drink enough on the flat or cooled down every one and then? Was he too cooked by the sun/heat already by arriving to first climb? Recovered and maybe dealt with the heat bit better later.
Like his legs seemed decent in the end. He didnt collapse completely, after dropping quite early. Compared to other guys.
It is an odd one but there may be some explanations for it.
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Yeah it was quite hot today. I know how much it affects me, and the bigger you are (Mateo) the worse it can be.
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No idea about tomorrow. It's only a 25-30 minute effort. But being aero won't help much tomorrow.
I have no idea about what material best for him. regular bike, TT bike, combination.
I think given the limited amount of flat, i just ride on a regular bike. But what do I know.
If we look at today's final climb, it should be similar. With the exception that i'm hoping Remco will have a far better day.
I think i would already be very happy with an almeida like performance tomorrow. But after today it's hard to see him putting 1.30 into Onley and Vauquelin tomorrow. As for Lipo. I'm not sure what to make of him. Ever since last year Vuelta he basically came out of nowhere (for me). Which actually makes me think remco might want to go to red bull. as Lipo isn't that much younger and suddenly started making big strides once Roglic joined that team. And money and resources were put into GT battle.
I have no idea about what material best for him. regular bike, TT bike, combination.
I think given the limited amount of flat, i just ride on a regular bike. But what do I know.
If we look at today's final climb, it should be similar. With the exception that i'm hoping Remco will have a far better day.
I think i would already be very happy with an almeida like performance tomorrow. But after today it's hard to see him putting 1.30 into Onley and Vauquelin tomorrow. As for Lipo. I'm not sure what to make of him. Ever since last year Vuelta he basically came out of nowhere (for me). Which actually makes me think remco might want to go to red bull. as Lipo isn't that much younger and suddenly started making big strides once Roglic joined that team. And money and resources were put into GT battle.
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