Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[zlev11]

Yeah, because Evenepoel being dropped by 80 riders is completely normal and a reason to say last year wasn’t special

like i said earlier, it's happened in 2 of his last 3 grand tours

 

[kingjr]

Wow ... what a great site. Talk about going down the Rabbit Hole.

I asked ChatGPT to give me some peak climbing numbers at the Grand Tours over the recent years. I don't know how accurate it is and I ran out of credits to refine the list. Anyways here is what ChatGPT says FWIW.

Source: Cyclingnews Forum. Love it.

 

[greyclouds]

None of this makes any sense. It all looks… amateur. I get that it’s the Tour etc, but why risking your health and the rest of the season by riding with sub-par preparation and a broken rib?…

 

[greyclouds]

Remco said after Hautacam that he didn't have anything physical. If he's not lying now, he lied then.

What surprises me most is that he had a crash on the stage Merlier won and nothing happened. With a broken rib, any accident is a risk and it hurts a lot.

Besides, being able to ride a bike is one thing, but walking is worse, and it didn't seens anything strange.

I wouldn’t call him a liar because professional athletes will always chose what to say that fits their interests. But he certainly likes to pick and choose what to say and when/where he says it more than others.

 

[Red Rick]

Source: Cyclingnews Forum. Love it.

Holy ***.

Now i'm terrified to ask ChatGPT if Pogacar is lucky cause it will probably literally cite me (or Jose Mourinho)

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

like i said earlier, it's happened in 2 of his last 3 grand tours

Funny *** coming from a Roglic fanboy.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

The downside of having a big ego.

Nearly as critical as having morons for sports directors and idiots as performance managers.

 

[zlev11]

Funny *** coming from a Roglic fanboy.

Roglic has won 5 grand tours and has finished higher in the Tour de France than Remco ever will. but sure, bring up something that has nothing to do with the argument because you don't have a valid one.

 

[houtdffan]

So Remco admits he started the hardest race in the world, at 50% fitness level. Then quits halfway. Nice. His team mates must be incredibly motivated to work for him in the future.

The downside of having a big ego.

He gave it his all, even when he shouldnt have

 

[red_flanders]

I wouldn’t call him a liar because professional athletes will always chose what to say that fits their interests. But he certainly likes to pick and choose what to say and when/where he says it more than others.

That's interesting. I find him candid almost to a fault. For which he gets attacked for answering questions. Kinda can't win.

 

[houtdffan]

The broken rib also explains the total lack of explosiveness

 

[Salvarani]

None of this makes any sense. It all looks… amateur. I get that it’s the Tour etc, but why risking your health and the rest of the season by riding with sub-par preparation and a broken rib?…

It doesnt make any sense and thats actually a problem. You don’t really know what to believe here.

And does seem strange that he was at the nationals, when he says how he felt.

He also alledgely injured himself there. Yet it didnt seem to affect him too much at the time if you saw the races. He won the ITT and buried himself in RR trying to close down Wellens. Some performance if 1. Was really tired in his body. 2. Caught an injury.

All of this coming out now is convenient.

Rest up and heal.

 

[Berniece]

Roglic has won 5 grand tours and has finished higher in the Tour de France than Remco ever will. but sure, bring up something that has nothing to do with the argument because you don't have a valid one.

Finished higher than Remco ever will… 😂 oh wow he finished 2nd instead of 3rd. I’m also sure Evenepoel will finish 2nd at least once.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Finished higher than Remco ever will… 😂 oh wow he finished 2nd instead of 3rd. I’m also sure Evenepoel will finish 2nd at least once.

You should be way more careful when you write these things.

 

[Rackham]

I didn't read the press release but how do they know the fracture happened in the Belgian nationals and not in that first crash in the TdF? He was holding his ribs afterwards, if I remember correctly.

 

[Berniece]

You should be way more careful when you write these things.

Yeah, because it would be so weird for the 3rd best GT rider by far to get 1 position higher if one of the two falls or gets sick. I even think he might win it if lucky.

 

[Red Rick]

Yeah, because it would be so weird for the 3rd best GT rider by far to get 1 position higher if one of the two falls or gets sick. I even think he might win it if lucky.

Well if Pogacar were to get sick it's probably pandemonium and they'd cancel the race for a cow falling over

 

[Berniece]

Well if Pogacar were to get sick it's probably pandemonium and they'd cancel the race for a cow falling over

They might move it to a more suitable date for him

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yeah, because it would be so weird for the 3rd best GT rider by far to get 1 position higher if one of the two falls or gets sick. I even think he might win it if lucky.

Obsolete data. Last year, he was. Not this year.
You should never make a prediction based on luck (one of Vingegaard or Pogacar to get sick, crash out).
You used to say Remco would win for sure a TdF in his career, now you are already saying he "might win one day". You are already changing your narrative. Let's see if in one or two years, you are not changing your narrative again.

 

[Berniece]

Obsolete data. Last year, he was. Not this year.
You should never make a prediction based on luck (one of Vingegaard or Pogacar to get sick, crash out).
You used to say Remco would win for sure a TdF in his career, now you are already saying he "might win one day". You are already changing your narrative. Let's see if in one or two years, you are not changing your narrative again.

I'm saying based on luck to you because otherwise you keep complaining that I'm a fanboy, and delusional. In my complete honest opinion I think Evenepoel is better than Pogacar but he's just unlucky due to his crashes which stagnated his development. But since no one here thinks crashes have an influence on development that narrative doesn't work.

 

[AmRacer]

Yeah, because it would be so weird for the 3rd best GT rider by far to get 1 position higher if one of the two falls or gets sick. I even think he might win it if lucky.

Remco isn't the 3rd best GT rider, do keep up.

 

[AmRacer]

I'm saying based on luck to you because otherwise you keep complaining that I'm a fanboy, and delusional. In my complete honest opinion I think Evenepoel is better than Pogacar but he's just unlucky due to his crashes which stagnated his development. But since no one here thinks crashes have an influence on development that narrative doesn't work.

Rogla would have won 5 Tours, 3 Vuelta and 2 Giro, hadn't he crashed a lot.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I'm saying based on luck to you because otherwise you keep complaining that I'm a fanboy, and delusional. In my complete honest opinion I think Evenepoel is better than Pogacar but he's just unlucky due to his crashes which stagnated his development. But since no one here thinks crashes have an influence on development that narrative doesn't work.

When we are talking about a specific GT (TdF) and you say "in my complete honest opinion, I think Evenepoel is better than Pogacar... his development", I (in my complete honest opinion and without any intention of taunting or trolling) can't think in an argument other than you really have a delusional and crazy opinion.
This is why I want him to race the Giro again (2026) against human riders (no aliens) to see if he can win a GT again. I also would like him to change teams (Redbull for sure. It seems the best team since Ineos is no longer a good team).

 

[Berniece]

Where we are talking about a specific GT (TdF) and you say "in my complete honest opinion, I think Evenepoel is better than Pogacar... his development", I can't think in an argument other than you really have a delusional and crazy opinion.

Like I said. Apparently people think the crashes Evenepoel has endured have no effect on his development.

 

[Ancalagon]

Remco is amazing and he is very unlucky, but his fans might just be the most delusional in pro cycling. The gap between their hype and actual reality is hilarious.