Teams & Riders The Remco Evenepoel is the next Eddy Merckx thread

[Netserk]

What about Skjelmose, who he just beat in AGR? Skjelmose tried.

skjelmose buried his own podium spot there

 

[jotafap]

The problem is we dont know, as we keep seeing the pattern of not even trying.

We do know, you are just not accepting what we saw and he said himself.

 

[Salvarani]

skjelmose buried his own podium spot there

If Remco tried, they could have helped each other after Redoute. Not saying they would have chased down Pog or Seixas.

 

[red_flanders]

The problem is we dont know, as we keep seeing the pattern of not even trying.

You seem wildly confident about something you couldn't possibly know for sure.

 

[Salvarani]

We do know, you are just not accepting what we saw and he said himself.

I know what I saw.

 

[Salvarani]

You seem wildly confident about something you couldn't possibly know for sure.

No, but I believe in my perspective.

 

[canina82]

It's like saying MVP could follow Pogacar in 2024 because he had something left in the tank and won the sprint for 3rd place.
Remco with good legs drops anyone in that group in cote des forges.

 

[Salvarani]

It's like saying MVP could follow Pogacar in 2024 because he had something left in the tank and won the sprint for 3rd place.
Remco with good legs drops anyond in that group in cote des forges.

Nobody is saying he would have been able to follow.

It is about trying.

Remco still had no problem to pull the group, chase down Skjelmose with an attack and still beat everyone comfortably in the sprint despite opening it from a long distance. Nobody getting close to overtaking him.

I dont see how he could not have tried on Redoute to at least put up a fight. Whether he gets dropped or not is really besides the point.

 

[canina82]

Nobody is saying is he would have been able to follow.

It is about trying.

Remco still had no problem to pull the group, chase down Skjelmose with an attack and still beat everyone comfortably in the sprint despite opening it from a long distance. Nobody getting close to overtaking him.

I dont see how he could not have tried on Redoute to at least put up a fight. Whether he gets dropped or not is really besides the point.

But in what world do you live? If he really tried to follow them, he would explode and not finish inside the top10. If I wanted to do a PB in a marathon, I would not follow those kenian runners in the beginning because I would be dead after 10 minutes. Pogacar is 2 steps above Evenepoel, he just need to accept he is not close to him and ride for the best result possible.

 

[Salvarani]

But in what world do you live? If he really tried to follow them, he would explode and not finish inside the top10. If I wanted to do a PB in a marathon, I would not follow those kenian runners in the beginning because I would be dead after 10 minutes. Pogacar is 2 steps above Evenepoel, he just need to accept he is not close to him and ride for the best result possible.

I dont think so and I wouldnt trust your perspective as the race was over with 200km according to you.

 

[Valv.Piti]

Where is Logic at these days anyways?

 

[bah]

Nobody is saying he would have been able to follow.

It is about trying.

Remco still had no problem to pull the group, chase down Skjelmose with an attack and still beat everyone comfortably in the sprint despite opening it from a long distance. Nobody getting close to overtaking him.

I dont see how he could not have tried on Redoute to at least put up a fight. Whether he gets dropped or not is really besides the point.

In this day and age that sort of "trying" just isn't going to happen. They know their numbers, they know if they go into the red they'll simply blow up. What would the point have been? Go all out to hang on for 30 seconds and then

 

[Krzysztof_O]

If I wanted to do a PB in a marathon, I would not follow those kenian runners in the beginning because I would be dead after 10 minutes.

Running 3 km in 10 minutes? You have great fitness.

 

[VayaVayaVaya]

Pogacar and Seixas climbed Redoute wayyy faster now than, well, even last year, but even more so than Remco’s winning years. Ridden differently now of course but I think it wasn’t unreasonable for Remco to talk pre-race about being 15s back. The problem is they climbed nearly 15s faster this year than last. Having said that, he didn’t even give it a go, just like last year.

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[Salvarani]

In this day and age that sort of "trying" just isn't going to happen. They know their numbers, they know if they go into the red they'll simply blow up. What would the point have been? Go all out to hang on for 30 seconds and then

Seixas did it, no?

Whether Remco gets dropped or not. He still riding Redoute faster than a majority of those other riders, especially if digging deep. There is still time in descents and flat to recover. He could have worked with someone like Skjelmose.

Maybe trying doesnt change the outcome, but I would at least liked to have seen it. What does he have to lose? It more feels like it is the optical illusion that matters here.

 

[EddyMazzoleni]

It's like saying MVP could follow Pogacar in 2024 because he had something left in the tank and won the sprint for 3rd place.
Remco with good legs drops anyone in that group in cote des forges.

Remco with good legs likely crest Redout with Skjelmose and either still finishes third or is able to capitalise on Seixas blowing up catches him for 2nd. The question to me is why he was so bad on Redoute. Did he spent too much in the brake? Just a bad day? Does he suffers head to head with Pogacar?

 

[canina82]

Remco with good legs likely crest Redout with Skjelmose and either still finishes third or is able to capitalise on Seixas blowing up catches him for 2nd. The question to me is why he was so bad on Redoute. Did he spent too much in the brake? Just a bad day? Does he suffers head to head with Pogacar?

For me, there are some reasons:
1 - He is overrated as a climber/puncheur (climbing in general). Not close to Pogacar but there was always this talk about him being close to Pogacar. Even yesterday, you had Taxus saying Pogacar never showed to be better than Remco in these short hills.

2 - Mental block. Somehow he thought he could actually win this race but UAE/Pogacar came back and in his mind, he lost the chance of winning the race.

3 - Overweight.

 

[jmdirt]

It's like saying MVP could follow Pogacar in 2024 because he had something left in the tank and won the sprint for 3rd place.
Remco with good legs drops anyone in that group in cote des forges.

Max Van Poppel?

 

[bah]

Sounds like excuses to me.

This excuses thing with Remco is just getting silly now. How is it an excuse? He's basically saying he just wasn't strong enough to follow and if he'd tried he would have gone into the red too much and blown up. How's that an "excuse"? It's just reality.

 

[The fridge in the blue trees]

Remco 26 is a bit of a mystery to me. Unlike 24+25 everything should to be going perfectly, no bad crashes, no injuries. Form seems there, flies in the flat, flies in Valencia, Amstel. But UAE and now this.. has he somehow forgotten how to climb? Nothing to do with not trying, nothing to do with his mentality, he just doesn't seem to have the legs there. Why?

 

[bah]

Seixas did it, no?

Whether Remco gets dropped or not. He still riding Redoute faster than a majority of those other riders, especially if digging deep. There is still time in descents and flat to recover. He could have worked with someone like Skjelmose.

Maybe trying doesnt change the outcome, but I would at least liked to have seen it. What does he have to lose? It more feels like it is the optical illusion that matters here.

Seixas didn't get dropped until he did. When he did get dropped he probably in all likelihood have dug even deeper to stay on the wheel for 30 seconds or whatever and then sink like a stone. But what's the point?

 

[Salvarani]

Seixas didn't get dropped until he did. When he did get dropped he probably in all likelihood have dug even deeper to stay on the wheel for 30 seconds or whatever and then sink like a stone. But what's the point?

Point is trying.

 

[Salvarani]

This excuses thing with Remco is just getting silly now. How is it an excuse? He's basically saying he just wasn't strong enough to follow and if he'd tried he would have gone into the red too much and blown up. How's that an "excuse"? It's just reality.

From what I saw, he was stronger than how he performed on Redoute.

 

[bah]

Point is trying.

Why didn't the rest of the peloton try? You think as professional cyclists they couldn't have put in an effort to hang on for a while?

 

[Salvarani]

Why didn't the rest of the peloton try? You think as professional cyclists they couldn't have put in an effort to hang on for a while?

Most of them did and looked spent in the end. Not Remco, to me.