The Sky-Con-O-Meter. Predictions on how much more ridiculous they can get

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BroDeal said:
They have already been doing this. Last four GTs.

First Australian TDF winner.
Froome and Wiggins mess up with their gearing while on their way to winning the Vuelta.
First Canadian GT winner. (Giro)
Frist British TDF winner.

Three out of four. All English speaking. All new countries. There are big sponsorship dollars keeping the winner speaking English. This is a more effective way to globalize the sport than putting a stupid stage race in China.

Next up, Fumi Beppu has a Sky-like transformation and wins the Vuelta.

+1 pity there are no Chinese pro riders afaik, they would have great potential. In the post: a rider of African descent breaks out to unlock those black american dollars.

Could do with Bert out of the way though, otherwise he'll just hoover up valuable marketing opportunities.
 
Mar 13, 2009
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enCYCLOpedia said:
"I know exactly why I wouldn't dope. "

Brad should learn that liers speak in hypotheticals, euphemisms, and weasal words.

"I dont dope"
"I dont take drugs"
will sate

the thing with the talking points, it gives the idiots great material to spew out over the ether
 
Mar 13, 2009
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taiwan said:
+1 pity there are no Chinese pro riders afaik, they would have great potential. In the post: a rider of African descent breaks out to unlock those black american dollars.

Could do with Bert out of the way though, otherwise he'll just hoover up valuable marketing opportunities.


they missed MA Haijun
http://www.cyclingarchives.com/coureurfiche.php?coureurid=21890

very good talent in 2007.

Tour des Pays de Savoie 2007
Classification – Road – General Classification
1 Daniel Martin IRL in
2 Hai Jun Ma

World Championship, Road, ITT, Elite B 2007
Road – B World Time Trial Championship
Main World Championship, Road, ITT, Elite B
1 Hai Jun Ma CHN in 34m 45.780s
2 Chris Froome GBR at 15.180s

see in about 2006 Tour of Ivory Coast, a 19yo Eritrean, took it to the JP Bernadeau previous Europcar iteration. And animated that tour. Now on Greenedge
 
Mar 11, 2009
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BroDeal said:
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Three out of the top five. Too bad Rogers was not ordered to take it easy so it did not look even more ridiculous.
I thought the exact, exact same thing when it happened. Same visual. Same thoughts. Everything.

I've been avoiding the Clinic off and on for a while, but this Tour, especially Froome, has me as jaded as ever.
 
Jun 22, 2012
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thehog said:
I love clean cycling.

I think next year we need a Canadian winner. Then a South African winner.

Let's globalise cycling.

French guys win stages.

Not sure how to deal with the Spanish but we'll work that out.

I agree with the other posters above, if we are trying to globalise cycling, a Japanese or Chinese winner next year would be perfect
 
Jul 26, 2009
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Alpe d'Huez said:
I thought the exact, exact same thing when it happened. Same visual. Same thoughts. Everything.

I've been avoiding the Clinic off and on for a while, but this Tour, especially Froome, has me as jaded as ever.

The visual is the same, the gestalt was far different. Floyd was coming back from a bad day. Wigg was just putting an underscore and bold statement.

Both doped performances.

I'd say Sky's performance makes the prospect of watching cycling for the next couple years pretty depressing unless something reins them in. I hope there are some GOOD investigative reporters beating the bushes. Otherwise we can watch Cav lead Sky on some more minor climbs while he is on Sky while the commentators marvel at what a great team they are. This is a farce. :rolleyes:
 

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ggusta said:
The visual is the same, the gestalt was far different. Floyd was coming back from a bad day. Wigg was just putting an underscore and bold statement.

Both doped performances.

I'd say Sky's performance makes the prospect of watching cycling for the next couple years pretty depressing unless something reins them in. I hope there are some GOOD investigative reporters beating the bushes. Otherwise we can watch Cav lead Sky on some more minor climbs while he is on Sky while the commentators marvel at what a great team they are. This is a farce. :rolleyes:

The British cycling press is small. The major newspapers cover cricket and football almost for the entirety of the sports pages.

No one and I mean no one is Britain is going to write a word out of place about this race.

For the small publications its suicide. The major newspapers outside of News Limited you're not getting enough lines regular and now you've got the back page to yourself - you're not gong to put a foot wrong with that opportunity.
 
Feb 10, 2010
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taiwan said:
+1 pity there are no Chinese pro riders afaik, they would have great potential. In the post: a rider of African descent breaks out to unlock those black american dollars.

Could do with Bert out of the way though, otherwise he'll just hoover up valuable marketing opportunities.

I wonder if it's a quid pro quo to appease the IOC since the USADA embarrased the UCI? Maybe a Brazillian Team in 2016?
 
Jul 22, 2009
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My con-o-meter needle buried when wiggins did the lead out thing with cav, the day after the decisive mountain stage and the day before the time trial exclamation.

It actually looked worse than froome thumping Cancellara in the first ITT.
 
May 14, 2010
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scribe said:
My con-o-meter needle buried when wiggins did the lead out thing with cav, the day after the decisive mountain stage and the day before the time trial exclamation.

It actually looked worse than froome thumping Cancellara in the first ITT.

In light of such farcical scenes, it's remarkable to me that some otherwise savy and experienced people claim to believee that Sky and Wiggins won clean.

This tells me that people are capable of convincing themselves of anything, not only capable but eager to, even when their own eyes won't cooperate. It's actually kind of breathtaking, but it doesn't bode well for the sport, or for the fans.
 
Jul 13, 2012
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thehog said:
The British cycling press is small. The major newspapers cover cricket and football almost for the entirety of the sports pages.

No one and I mean no one is Britain is going to write a word out of place about this race.

You're forgetting Paul Kimmage, one of the best journalists on the topic, imho:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgns7CXeUI

He had also been critical on Wiggins, until Wiggins lashed out at him (and other "doubters") in the Guardian. Since then, Kimmage has been quiet, as far as I know, which for the nation's most prominent cycling journalist says something, at a time when others are falling over each other to praise Wiggins and Team Sky. Let's see who has the last laugh.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...n-Wiggins-and-Team-Sky-over-transparency.aspx
 
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Yes. He has been very quiet through this whole sham of a Tour. Hope he comes out with something real damning about this.
 
Jun 14, 2010
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gooner said:
Brailsford has just said that Cavendish can leave if he wishes to. That will probably mean Eisel will also leave. Remember Siutsou pulled out early this year so it could be anything up to 3 extra domestiques drilling it along again next year if this happens.

Oh my it could even get worse.:eek:

You know how we all thought Nairo Quintana and Thibault Pinot are the future great climbers of our sport.

turns out we were wrong. Its actually Ed Clancy Peter Kennaugh and Geraint thomas
 
May 26, 2009
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So Sky have a 28 man roster at the minute, take Cav, Eisel and Flecha off it, that then opens the door for 5 more Mick Rogers/Richie Porte's. Giro/Tour/Vuelta ownage for Sky next year.
 
Jun 10, 2010
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BYOP88 said:
So Sky have a 28 man roster at the minute, take Cav, Eisel and Flecha off it, that then opens the door for 5 more Mick Rogers/Richie Porte's. Giro/Tour/Vuelta ownage for Sky next year.
We'll see. 2013 is not an Olympic year, and Wiggins, at 33, will officially enter the "old" category, where every season could be the one where you're finally past it.
 
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Maybe bskyb will split those 2 gt superteams into Team Sky and team The Sun and do some fake competing versus eachother at the tour.
 
May 26, 2009
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hrotha said:
We'll see. 2013 is not an Olympic year, and Wiggins, at 33, will officially enter the "old" category, where every season could be the one where you're finally past it.


Only 9 winners have been 33 or over in the entire history of the Tour. But Wiggins was the only IP rider so he'll be fine for the next 4-5 years.
 
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enCYCLOpedia said:
You're forgetting Paul Kimmage, one of the best journalists on the topic, imho:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZgns7CXeUI

He had also been critical on Wiggins, until Wiggins lashed out at him (and other "doubters") in the Guardian. Since then, Kimmage has been quiet, as far as I know, which for the nation's most prominent cycling journalist says something, at a time when others are falling over each other to praise Wiggins and Team Sky. Let's see who has the last laugh.

http://www.velonation.com/News/ID/1...n-Wiggins-and-Team-Sky-over-transparency.aspx


My favourite part of the Armstrong press conference is not listening to Armstrong spout garbage but it the expressions on the face of Hincapie and Leipheimer (and Basso) as they listen to the guy ... they look a strange mix of uncomfortable, worried ... who knows what thay are actually thinking but probably "For God's sake Lance just shut up - we all know what he means and we all know what you have been up to" It would be funny if it were not so sad.
 
Jul 5, 2012
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cyclingnews said:
“We've frequently noted numerous little tweaks and upgrades of...Team Sky captain and current maillot jaune Bradley Wiggins...his shoes are notably lighter than what's used by the majority of the peloton... nearly half the weight of a more conventional high-end shoe. "

OK, we have all been wondering what is the REAL reason for the success of Team Sky and Wiggo. Finally we have confirmation ;)