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Basso is suffering from a cyst in an undisclosed location. His place in the Giro will be taken by teammate Damiano Caruso. The cyst was discovered on Wednesday and the team frantically attempted the cure the problem with antibiotics.

Where's Dr. Leinders when you need him?
 
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JimmyFingers said:
So where are the predictions? Or was this thread dredged up because there wasn't enough threads to discuss Sky on already?

We keep dredging them up for you Jimmy - so you can bump up your post average per day....give you some credibility....since joining last July.
 
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Ahh and here we have the two extremes of the clinic in a nutshell: one funny, one obnoxious. I'll let you figure out which is which.
 

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thehog said:
Predictions:

- 1-2 in the remaining time trial.

- Froome to ride up to breakaway attempts by top tier climbers and then attack himself, slowdown and then ride on the front again.

- Sky doms to pace set for 50km’s at a time up HC mountains

- Cav to win one or more stages before Tour end.

- The grupetto to finish outside the time limit day after day.

- Known climbers being chased down by Sky doms.


Anything else I missed?

The predictions weren't far off!
 

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Yes, cycling has a terrible recent history of doping, yes many outstanding performances have since been revealed to be the result of doping, but is Wiggins' performance really that unbelievable?

- The course is perfectly suited to him - hardly any difficult (i.e. high gradient) summit finishes and there are lots of time trial km;

- Neither Contador or A Schleck started;

- Cadel the oldest defending champion in a generation;

- The winner of the Giro out in the first week with a crash, many others losing significant time on crashes, etc..., Frank Schleck, Menchov, etc. not showing strong form, his closest rival outside his own team being Nibali;

- Possibly - competing in a peleton that is much cleaner that it was in the 1990s and for much of the 2000s;

- His lead eaked out by one strong time trial performance - not by racing away from the peleton in the mountains - a strong time trial by Wiggins hardly being a cause for surprise.

In the absence of any evidence of doping, it seems to me he should be given the credit for a fantastic effort at making the best of his gifts and seizing the opportunity that has presented itself to him.

As for the rest of Team Sky - Cavendish winning one stage (just) can hardly be described as an unbelievable performance, nor can Knees, Suitsu, Eisel or Boasson Hagen be said to have set the world on fire - they have done solid team performances, with strong but not inhuman performances by Porte in the mountains (which have not been the most demanding in recent years). That leaves Froome and Rogers. If it is possible that Rogers is just having a good season (with multiple world time trial victories he can hardly be said to be entirely without talent), then the theories on here about an entire team come down to just one rider - Froome. I don't know enough about him or his history to comment, but whatever the answer, it hardly seems a basis to condemn an entire team with no evidence.

Query if Wiggins recent expletive ridden description of the kind of people who like posting in the clinic has been a little too close to the truth for some of the posters here? Maybe some should be encouraged to spend less time on the internet and achieve something in their lives - rather than questioning others without evidence and moaning about how dull the Tour is?

Wonder where this guy went?
 
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I miss the Hog who genuinely wanted to believe that Sky was clean

Nah, actually this version is much better.
 
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Good to see Garmin being brought in for the cleanliness myth:
http://m.guardiannews.com/sport/2013/may/02/garmin-giro-ditalia-hesjedal-ryder

1 up for William Fotheringham

Just because; Charles Wegelius on ''clean cycling''. The man from:
Wegelius cleared

The UCI has cleared Charly Wegelius (De Nardi-Colpack) after the British rider was prevented from riding the Giro di Lombardia in October due to an elevated haematocrit level. He was suspended from competition for two weeks, per UCI rules, however any such suspension is considered a preventative measure for health reasons, not an automatic implication of doping. Subsequent blood tests were negative for EPO and confirmed the absence of any other doping substances.

Wegelius' De Nardi Colpack team issued a statement at the time explaining that Wegelius's haematocrit value fluctuates naturally, the result of the removal of his spleen following a 1998 motorcycle accident. Wegelius will travel Monday to UCI headquarters in Switzerland to undergo a series of tests.
That high hematocrit had nothing to do with him riding for Stanga and dottore Sprenger of course.

Fcking apologists.
 
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Fearless Greg Lemond said:
Good to see Garmin being brought in for the cleanliness myth:
http://m.guardiannews.com/sport/2013/may/02/garmin-giro-ditalia-hesjedal-ryder

1 up for William Fotheringham

Just because; Charles Wegelius on ''clean cycling''. The man from:

That high hematocrit had nothing to do with him riding for Stanga and dottore Sprenger of course.

Fcking apologists.

I like the article.

"Wegelius will travel to the UCI in Switzerland and confirm he is from English language speaking country, make a payment and be cleared of any potential doping offences."
 
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Fearless Greg Lemond said:
Good to see Garmin being brought in for the cleanliness myth:
http://m.guardiannews.com/sport/2013/may/02/garmin-giro-ditalia-hesjedal-ryder

1 up for William Fotheringham

Just because; Charles Wegelius on ''clean cycling''. The man from:

That high hematocrit had nothing to do with him riding for Stanga and dottore Sprenger of course.

Fcking apologists.

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So the spleen, which can absorb and then release Hgb from / into the bloodstream is now gone, his Hct fluctuates. Again, I ain't no doctor but at face value that makes no sense at all .

Without that Hgb reserve available to be released under aerobic stress conditions, you would expect his Hct to in fact be more stable.

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