Teams & Riders Thibaut Pinot discussion thread

[Remy55]

'Groupama-FDJ neemt Thibaut Pinot niet mee naar Giro d'Italia'

Thibaut Pinot zal dit jaar toch niet deelnemen aan de Giro d’Italia, zo meldt Eurosport ‘op basis van bronnen binnen zijn ploeg Groupama-FDJ’. De Franse klimmer, deze week actief in de Tour of the Alps, heeft nog altijd last van zijn rug. De 30-jarige Pinot werd onlangs nog geopereerd aan zijn...

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looks like no Pinot at the Giro

 

[Rackham]

Isn't it weird how FDJ say Pinot's bad performances are because he still feels back pain... but the following days they send him into breakaway groups on the attack?

There's something missing here & I also seriously doubt their doctors are placing him at risk for the mere Tour of the Alpes. But it's all irrelevant because unless he actually rediscovers his actual race winning form, it doesn't matter what Pinot or his team say.

 

[RedheadDane]

Isn't it weird how FDJ say Pinot's bad performances are because he still feels back pain... but the following days they send him into breakaway groups on the attack?

I just hope it means that he's getting better, even if still not quite good enough to do the Giro. And I doubt they would have sent him (or indeed any rider) on the attack if he really wasn't up to it.

 

[carolina]

I think he just refuses to give up. All the times he DNF he really showed his fighting spirit, which is something I really like in him, but the team needs to step in and stop him.

He is only hurting himself. The back pain won't get better with more racing, it will only get worse.

He lost 9 minutes today, he's not doing the Giro, why is he still in the race? Just leave, get your sh*t together and go for the Vuelta or some other races at the end of the season.

 

[Pinot's goat]

I think he just refuses to give up. All the times he DNF he really showed his fighting spirit, which is something I really like in him, but the team needs to step in and stop him.

He is only hurting himself. The back pain won't get better with more racing, it will only get worse.

He lost 9 minutes today, he's not doing the Giro, why is he still in the race? Just leave, get your sh*t together and go for the Vuelta or some other races at the end of the season.

He was in the break yesterday so I guess he still thinks he has something to offer. I am beginning to think they know that racing won't make the situation worse.

 

[Mayomaniac]

Another day in the breakaway, but apparently his back started to give him problem once again after some time.

It mainly seems to be a problem on longer climbs, he was fine on the short hills in the one day races at the start of the season. I blame the team, they should send him to ride more races that feature hilly terrain and lack longer climbs until his back gets better. Sending him to the Ardennes classics would have been an option.

I don't really blame him that much for wanting to finish the Tour after what had happened to him and with the final TT being pretty much in his backyard, but at some point the team should have pulled the plug.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Another day in the breakaway, but apparently his back started to give him problem once again after some time.

It mainly seems to be a problem on longer climbs, he was fine on the short hills in the one day races at the start of the season. I blame the team, they should send him to ride more races that feature hilly terrain and lack longer climbs until his back gets better. Sending him to the Ardennes classics would have been an option.

I don't really blame him that much for wanting to finish the Tour after what had happened to him and with the final TT being pretty much in his backyard, but at some point the team should have pulled the plug.

He should have left that team ages ago.

 

[RedheadDane]

Well... it's official...

Thibaut Pinot will not compete in the Giro d'Italia

The Groupama-FDJ cycling team, in consultation with his rider, has decided that Thibaut Pinot will not participate in the Tour of Italy. Thibaut Pinot

www.equipecycliste-groupama-fdj.fr

 

[Tonton]

Maybe it's the end, at the very least a huge setback...I'm gutted. Life goes on, and Tibopino will try, who knows?

 

[Fuente De]

I would wish he comes back but I think this is one time too many.

 

[RedheadDane]

I'm not quite so pessimistic. Some rest, some proper treatment, and then look forward to the Fall.
Sure, he might never return to the level he had back in the Tour two years ago, and that just makes what happened then all the more heartbreaking...

 

[Pinot's goat]

I'm not quite so pessimistic. Some rest, some proper treatment, and then look forward to the Fall.
Sure, he might never return to the level he had back in the Tour two years ago, and that just makes what happened then all the more heartbreaking...

If they sort the back issue I am sure he will return to that level.

 

[Netserk]

Maybe it's the end, at the very least a huge setback...I'm gutted. Life goes on, and Tibopino will try, who knows?

The verdict is still out, it's not impossible that he can bounce back this or next year like he did in 2018. What a beautiful fall that was.

 

[will-10]

I hope it's not the end, but I'm not hopeful.

 

[Forever The Best]

He should retire instead of ending up like Aru.

 

[BlueRoads]

What? You can't be serious. Although I'm not too optimistic myself it is way too early to give up completely!

 

[carolina]

It doesn't seem to be something that serious that he can't go back to his usual level.

He just needs to find a good doctor/physio/coach to help him solve the issue. I think this is the main problem. Whoever they're consulting is not good enough or doesn't know what to do.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

What? You can't be serious. Although I'm not too optimistic myself it is way too early to give up completely!

It doesn't seem to be something that serious that he can't go back to his usual level.

He just needs to find a good doctor/physio/coach to help him solve the issue. I think this is the main problem. Whoever they're consulting is not good enough or doesn't know what to do.

Fck me. I thought i was in the Chris Froome thread (which was right beneath the Thibaut Pinot thread)
I was thinking "these people are delusional"

 

[Pinot's goat]

He should retire instead of ending up like Aru.

This is the worst comment I have seen today, Pinot's situation is nothing like Aru. Pinot finished second at the Dauphine about 8 months ago just before the injury, he still can win a lot of races once the back is healed.

 

[Netserk]

He should retire instead of ending up like Aru.

Ha, I did consider going for the "Retire or hang yourself, this is disgraceful beyond belief"-comment, but that would be needlessly crude. And I really believe that he will win again.

 

[CyclistAbi]

If there is chronic back pain involved that should be addressed first.

 

[Ilmaestro99]

Anybody know why TiboPino doesn't do much altitude training or any long training camps? He didn't do any this year to prep for the giro, wonder if its because of his back. He was on Teide to prepare for the spring races in 2019 and 2020, but not usually to prepare for grand tours

 

[Tonton]

Pinot and Bernal had petty much the same fate, Rog recovered. They haven't. There's something to say about teams and doctors. Not to get in Clinic stuff. Decisions.

 

[RedheadDane]

Pinot and Bernal had petty much the same fate, Rog recovered. They haven't. There's something to say about teams and doctors. Not to get in Clinic stuff. Decisions.

Rog didn't have a back injury, though...

 

[Fuente De]

This is the worst comment I have seen today, Pinot's situation is nothing like Aru. Pinot finished second at the Dauphine about 8 months ago just before the injury, he still can win a lot of races once the back is healed.

Aru's last win was a TdF stage becoming top favourite of that race. The situation is exactly the same, he is just further up the trajectory.