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Hugh Januss said:
I was kind of thinking what with Tour time looming how much fun it would be to set up a sockpuppet and just rerun all of the Lance fanboy talking points for Sky until heads exploded. It looks like somebody has beat me to it. Damn it.

The single thing I was looking forward to after Armstrong's doping was exposed, experiencing a July without hoards of 3 week trolls polluting every single thread on this forum, has been thwarted before the Tour even began. I mean, we can put up with idiots like ebandit if we have to, but I'm super bummed-out that we have to endure the exploits of the Weak Trollkraft Brigade for another 3 or 4 weeks. D@mnit!
 
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Taxus4a said:
Well, I hope would be the last time people said to me... but that in the past was the same... a lot of things in a clean or in a dirty cycling could be the same, exactly, but that is something that doesnt demostrate anything.

That is just: the same that when was dirty.. ok, we could go on like that for ages...what would be the proff it is clean... that the team you dont like doesnt win? Seriously?? a team could win and other not, and the doped were the second.

You are just looking for similitudes with the past, and that make you do not see the clear differences.+

To me, stop saying, that is the same that in the past, becouse I am tired of that, and that it doesnt demostrate nothing.
I dont mind what people said in the past, I wasnt fan of Lance, and I point him as doper, but just when there was an evidence, not before, before you can analyze, point something strange (that is ok if people do with SKY), but no more.

You say then controls fail except for the top ... what do you Know? you take that information where?? In you imagination?? Any proff of that? Contador had his positive, Scarponi his things, Menchov as well, maybe not public, but they have...all of them in good teams and podium in GT...
Controls works... good teams could go to train in altitude when thay want, could even go with his staff.. that is an advantahe, there are more.. but doping? there is no evidence now. there are suspicious teams, yes, but SKY is just suspicious in your minds, US Postal, was clearly suspicious. There are a lot of differences.

Did you ever actually watch US Postal??????????????????????????? Then I'm sure you've noticed the uncanny ability of a certain team to control mountain stages [with trains] in the same way as US Postal did in their heyday.
 
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Mr. McQ said:
Your wit is fairly dull

Of course it is Sir Bradley Wiggins

No, where we come from SBW is Sonny Bill Williams. ;)

Actually I thought the wit of the original riposte was quite sharp. Made me smile. A little bit of lightening up might be in order.
 
hrotha said:
Stop pretending you're an insider, Taxus.

It depens what you means as insider, but I consider I was, and I keep the contacts.

But if I were so inside as JV, you would say that my word is not valid.

Just believe Hamilton and others, he was inside and what he gain by saying today is mostly clean?

I see people just trying to discredit, as always, it is not for you.
I am not and sky fan, I said in San Sebastian de los Reyes to Uran: please, dont go to SKY.

But when you read the last interview of Rogers, you realize this team is great and making history and wining clean to people maybe in some cases no so clean, and that is...amazing. So, at lest the team have my respect. Garmin as well. As Rogers said: HTC did the same to win sprints with Cav... the same philosophy and methods.
 
Hugh Januss said:
The English I can follow, the logic, less well.
I wish you were right, I really do, but I really haven't seen it yet, and I've been around this sport as a racer, mechanic, coach, shop manager, shop owner, and sponsor for more than 40 years. I know what goes on, all Sky has is a new angle, a new drug, one which apparently can turn some guys into 2% bodyfat TT monsters. In all my time in racing loosing too much weight causes a reduction of power, but not Froome or Wigans or coincidentally (?) their teammates. There is something fishy there and it's not EBH's herring. As Bruyneel so eloquently put it "none of this would have come out if we would have only given Floyd a ride", I wonder who will turn out to be Sky's Landis?

Dont you believe that if things are as you say, we will know in the future, as with Lance, Jalabert, Ulle...etc...

When did you stop been inside cycling world? do you keep your contacts, talk with them if they are in a protour team

I dont think Froome did an special transformation of his body...SKY could have some secret, but why ilegal? and that secret make no big numbers in the mountains.

You could be right, I hope you can tell me the same.

But if you are right, cycling will lose all his credibililly, or he start by saying doping is free, or no more pro cycling. First me, I won't watch that.

I dont think they are so mad and stupid, it is his money, it is his job...once doping was money, today is a risk of losing job.
 
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Taxus4a said:
Dont you believe that if things are as you say, we will know in the future, as with Lance, Jalabert, Ulle...etc...

When did you stop been inside cycling world? do you keep your contacts, talk with them if they are in a protour team

I dont think Froome did an special transformation of his body...SKY could have some secret, but why ilegal? and that secret make no big numbers in the mountains.

You could be right, I hope you can tell me the same.

But if you are right, cycling will lose all his credibililly, or he start by saying doping is free, or no more pro cycling. First me, I won't watch that.

I dont think they are so mad and stupid, it is his money, it is his job...once doping was money, today is a risk of losing job.

You sure get up early to post...in fact, you post in the time frame of someone who lives on the west coast...but that can't be the case because of your poor English skillz...unless you're writing Troll English...hmmmm...:rolleyes:
 

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Mr. McQ said:
All of the lies and innuendo about SKY should desist

It is ridiculous

There is no proof no rumour other than the comments of the incestuous cliniciadians

This really needs to stop It is not healthy for the sport, nor is it healthy for any person

Ease up buddy. It's helpless. The forum is full of Gods whose 2-5-10-20 year sofa experience allows to know cycling way better than any Sky staff member and distinguish a rider's talent and capacities at a glance. Such great experts should have somthing in their lives too. They have Sky and froome only threads.
 
ChewbaccaD said:
The single thing I was looking forward to after Armstrong's doping was exposed, experiencing a July without hoards of 3 week trolls polluting every single thread on this forum, has been thwarted before the Tour even began. I mean, we can put up with idiots like ebandit if we have to, but I'm super bummed-out that we have to endure the exploits of the Weak Trollkraft Brigade for another 3 or 4 weeks. D@mnit!

Well the good news is, it has already been done to death w/regard to Sky so at least you don't have to endure my sockpuppet trolling.:D
Which would have been really funny and clever, I can guaranty.
 
airstream said:
Ease up buddy. It's helpless. The forum is full of Gods whose 2-5-10-20 year sofa experience allows to know cycling way better than any Sky staff member and distinguish a rider's talent and capacities at a glance. Such great experts should have somthing in their lives too. They have Sky and froome only threads.
Jealous, you wish you had something, anything in your life.
All you got is a big loser for an avatar.:D


BTW Sky staff know cycling backwards and forwards, just like Bruyneel, Riis, Ferrari, and all the other crooks, that's how they fool the gullible and get away with it all. :rolleyes:
 
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