Thomas Dekker comeback thread

[boomcie]

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[Ryo Hazuki]

If you make over a 100 claims involving Colombian (Let's say South American) cyclists, chances are at least one of them is going to come [partially] true.

name some other ones then that didn't come true?

 

[boomcie]

name some other ones then that didn't come true?

Name them yourself, I'm sure you remember them all.
I myself don't keep a log of that sh*t.

But I'm mainly referring to that incredibly annoying saga about those Colombians that are going to crush the entire peloton.

Wait, you've been saying that for ages and they still haven't delivered.

Wait, that's right, they all have mental issues.

What's that? You'll keep predicting they're the greatest until one of them eventually becomes a cycling hero?

That's kinda my whole point.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I've been on this forum some more than a year so yeah that's pretty big bs. so far they are delivering. only 3 riders in wt and have advanced from 20 to 11 in country rankings. only an idiot isn;t seeing the enormous progress they are making.

 

[boomcie]

I've been on this forum some more than a year so yeah that's pretty big bs. so far they are delivering. only 3 riders in wt and have advanced from 20 to 11 in country rankings. only an idiot isn;t seeing the enormous progress they are making.

About 20 months is a lot more than one year, but I guess only an idiot doesn't see that. The way you catapult every single semi-decent South American cyclist into stardom is just ridiculous.

Your blind fanboyism totally obscures the possibility that you actually have some real knowledge about the matter.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

pls come with facts instead of rants.

 

[auscyclefan94]

You sound like ACF about Evans in the Giro last year. He was just sick, but otherwise he was Basso's equal.*** edited by mod ***.

Well at least there are reasonable excuses for Evans's mishaps at GT's. For Gesink, there is none because he either can't stay up on a bike or he struggles to do a good time trial.

 

[Timmy-loves-Rabo]

Name them yourself, I'm sure you remember them all.
I myself don't keep a log of that sh*t.

But I'm mainly referring to that incredibly annoying saga about those Colombians that are going to crush the entire peloton.

Wait, you've been saying that for ages and they still haven't delivered.

Wait, that's right, they all have mental issues.

What's that? You'll keep predicting they're the greatest until one of them eventually becomes a cycling hero?

That's kinda my whole point.

I most look forward to Henao's easy podium at next year's giro.

 

[boomcie]

I most look forward to Henao's easy podium at next year's giro.

Lol. Thanks Timmy. Sounds like a safe bet to me.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

I most look forward to Henao's easy podium at next year's giro.

I';ve already said that's nto gonna happen most likely. rujano will win the giro though next year if he stays fit. most perfect course for him

 

[El Pistolero]

Wow, some expectations you have. A bit rich, if we look at what he's done this season.

A good GC at the Tour is certainly out of the question. In fact I don't know if he could ever do that, he's not a born GT rider.


Vos was the fastest by far, she just got boxed in. The whole peloton rides on her wheel. You can call that lame tactics, but I don't think it's that weird to appoint the best rider in the world as your team leader.

As for the Dutch men conspiring to lose it for themselves, when do we ever go into the Worlds as favourites? That's right: never.

From what I saw of the Women WC the whole peloton practically gifted it to Marianne Vos and she still blew it.

As for never being the favorite going into the Worlds, that's right. But how many times have Rabobank been the favorite at AGR and completely blew it there?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

that's because rabo are a bunch of incompetent idiots.

 

[El Pistolero]

that's because rabo are a bunch of incompetent idiots.

Most of them are Dutch and AGR resembles the Worlds next year, so you see my point. Although know you don't have a Boogerd anymore though.

But if Gesink recovers he'll be a favorite IMO. A small one, but still a favorite.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

actually the biggest reaosn for rabo failing every year at agr was a spaniard. oscar freire and director idiots that made him leader evbery year for the agr

 

[El Pistolero]

actually the biggest reaosn for rabo failing every year at agr was a spaniard. oscar freire and director idiots that made him leader evbery year for the agr

Safe to say the Dutch coach for the Worlds isn't doing any better

Who knows, next year might have Theo Bos as leader lol. Why have hilly specialists on a hilly course when you can use pure sprinters?

 

[theyoungest]

But how many times have Rabobank been the favorite at AGR and completely blew it there?

How about never? Unless you consider Boogerd a guaranteed winner of that race, which he obviously wasn't.

 

[El Pistolero]

How about never? Unless you consider Boogerd a guaranteed winner of that race, which he obviously wasn't.

I never mean as a super favorite of course, but some of their riders have a favorite roll to fulfill. This year they had 3 people in a front group of 10, didn't co-operate one bit and still didn't make it in the top 5

Though Boogerd definitely was a big favorite in AGR during his heyday.

 

[boomcie]

I'd have to agree with EP.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

How about never? Unless you consider Boogerd a guaranteed winner of that race, which he obviously wasn't.

wow.you truly never followed cycling during the boogerd years. he was favorite for almost any hilly race he participated. especially the agr. he was alwasy the marked man too

 

[theyoungest]

I never mean as a super favorite of course, but some of their riders have a favorite roll to fulfill. This year they had 3 people in a front group of 10, didn't co-operate one bit and still didn't make it in the top 5

And if they'd cooperated they'd have won?

wow.you truly never followed cycling during the boogerd years. he was favorite for almost any hilly race he participated. especially the agr. he was alwasy the marked man too

I don't know about you, but I was always pretty certain he wouldn't win. That's why I wouldn't consider him a favourite. But of course he was always close.

Didn't we already find out that I'm older than you?

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

what does being older than someone have to do with following something?

and so did I but that's irrelevant what you or I thought. he was considered heavy favorite every year

 

[jens_attacks]

actually the biggest reaosn for rabo failing every year at agr was a spaniard. oscar freire and director idiots that made him leader evbery year for the agr

lol always a good laugh,now he will be the leader at katusha for amstel

 

[Kwibus]

I never mean as a super favorite of course, but some of their riders have a favorite roll to fulfill. This year they had 3 people in a front group of 10, didn't co-operate one bit and still didn't make it in the top 5

Though Boogerd definitely was a big favorite in AGR during his heyday.

The problem of those 3 was that all of those 3 didn't have the energy to attack the group they were in. So it was nice they had 3 in the lead, too bad none of them had the legs to do anything.

 

[theyoungest]

and so did I but that's irrelevant what you or I thought. he was considered heavy favorite every year

Just like the Netherlands are favourites for the European championships next year, which we all know they're not going to win

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Wow, some expectations you have. A bit rich, if we look at what he's done this season.

A good GC at the Tour is certainly out of the question. In fact I don't know if he could ever do that, he's not a born GT rider.


Vos was the fastest by far, she just got boxed in. The whole peloton rides on her wheel. You can call that lame tactics, but I don't think it's that weird to appoint the best rider in the world as your team leader.

As for the Dutch men conspiring to lose it for themselves, when do we ever go into the Worlds as favourites? That's right: never.

I know he is inconsistent, or was in earlier GT's, but he was also very young there. It's too bad he has only ridden 2 gt's at age 27...

But according to these garmin tests, if we believe them, he has one of the highest natural recuperation values in the peloton. (see the wielerflits article with Eelco Berkhout)
So I wonder why it didn't come out that way. Not serious enough in the past or what?