- Evidence by notes from the staff from those days (Blood bags, not EPO)
So now you want to conflate blood transfusions and EPO and use evidence of one as proof of the other? You must have some great roses.
Where do I say that oh great sage? I will publically laud your intense posting skills if you point out where I said that. Then again, it's the third strawman you erected, so I am afraid that's even beyond your masterly skills.
You are a caricature
. You simply refuse to read, clearly demonstrated by multiple times saying things clearly NOT written down like that. When confronted you simply try to make some other idiotic comment, called out on it, try to erect the next strawman. You are not acting in good faith.
Some reflection and distance would do you good.
Back to the subject at hand:
EPO is NOT the whole story. It's epo+team organisation that changed the 90ies. Those two "collided" at the same timeframe. Nobody is going to give us "September 12th 4o çlock, Indurain started his first EPO course", but we do know that EPO (and blood enrichment etc.) and team programs got fused around 1990.
All we can do is look at developments on EPO (1989 seems a very plausible pioneering era due to rumors and availability), and at organized team doping (PDM second half eighties).
So when did team programs get cross-pollinated with individual EPO to become go structural team wide EPO? Impossible to say.
- In 1994 Gewiss Ballan went full genius, but claiming they are the first is hard without evidence. Also, it seems to be a bit late.
- Was PDM pioneer even there? this is uncertain, especially since during the key years 1991-1992 the Intralipid scandal broke the teams spine and got some continuity issues which lead to a rebuild with the infamous Festina team. However the first rumors of EPO did involve a rider of PDM, which is worrisome.
- Banesto? Possible, but once again we lack evidence either way. Was it just Big Mig and his Captains on the full program? Was it everyone? Did this eveolve (seems likely)? If it did evolve, when can we speak of a "modern EPO team?" Impossible to say.
- ONCE? Manolo Sainz...This team would turn out to be crucial, Both Bruyneel and Breukink went through that team and both created their own GT powerhouse teams.
Considering the people involved and what we know about the team, ONCE certainly is one of the first getting the "team wide program" right. In 1994 Gewiss went full genius. In 1996 Riis went from Gewiss to T-Mobile and with Jan Ulrich broke Banesto.
The riders saying that in 1995 everything changed certainly have a point. By that time EVERY team owner understood the game and scrambled for team programs. This madcap dash also meant leakage outside the shell, so media got involved and eventually governing instances and justice departments woke up and reacted.
By the turn of the century the "cowboys" were outed (TVM, Festina, riders like Pantan etc.) and the likes of Bruyneel and Breukink started to take over.
We will never be able to pinpoint dates, or be "certain"things happened in an exact year. but the general picture of the evolving team programs and EPO usage are quite clear. There's no compelling evidence to have an early alternative timeline (early adoption of EPO mid eighties, Epo being team wide end eighties). on the other hand a later timeline is highly implausible due to the confessions of riders which pretty much shows that pre-90 EPO wasn't a widespread known factor.