Tinkoff want Froome, Nibali & Quintana at Giro

[Mellow Velo]

But with this apporach you would get a much better Tour and Giro. Much more open for everyone

I don't see how you can draw that conclusion.
You are assuming that all the big names would be racing the Giro to win, when riding the first week or so could almost conveniently form part of a Tour training programme.
You simply cannot construct a contract that could guarantee this outcome.
So, we are left with some form of a gentleman's agreement.
The trust required from all sides, for that to happen, would be enormous.

 

[Cimber]

I don't see how you can draw that conclusion.
You are assuming that all the big names would be racing the Giro to win, when riding the first week or so could almost conveniently form part of a Tour training programme.
You simply cannot construct a contract that could guarantee this outcome.
So, we are left with some form of a gentleman's agreement.
The trust required from all sides, for that to happen, would be enormous.

Well ye you need to assume that they ride to win - in all 3. But if that condition is met all three races (especially the latter 2) will be extremely interesting and open (particularly for the 2nd row candidates).

I am not talking about contracts here, I am talking about if theose 4 actually agreed that this would be a fun and interesting experiment and genuinely gave it a go. You cant force people to do anythingthey dont want to. They should actually want to do it - all of them. And one of the incentives would be the knowledge that you took part of something really historical - win or lose.

 

[inri2000]

So much for Nibali riding the Giro as he intimated recently. Coward.

And you are basing this on something a random guy on a forum thinks will happen? Wow

 

[Electress]

Well ye you need to assume that they ride to win - in all 3. But if that condition is met all three races (especially the latter 2) will be extremely interesting and open (particularly for the 2nd row candidates).

I am not talking about contracts here, I am talking about if theose 4 actually agreed that this would be a fun and interesting experiment and genuinely gave it a go. You cant force people to do anythingthey dont want to. They should actually want to do it - all of them. And one of the incentives would be the knowledge that you took part of something realy historical - win or lose.

Absolutely this. These are the 'tilting at windmills' moments that end up being high points in the history of a sport.

 

[LaFlorecita]

And you are basing this on something a random guy on a forum thinks will happen? Wow

Eh? Did you read the OP?

 

[Publicus]

And you are basing this on something a random guy on a forum thinks will happen? Wow

No. Basing it on Martinelli's comments.

 

[Akuryo]

If they are all targeting the Giro, Rigo can take the Tour, okay?

 

[Jspear]

I guess he read my post and email yeaterday.

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=1581999&postcount=23

Wow! You have persuasive powers. Could you now e-mail the other big 3 and get them on board?

 

[Angliru]

something tells me, he (Tinkov) won't be challenging them if he thought there is only a slightest possibility they'd accept the challenge

It would play into his hands if they did accept the challenge. It would level the playing field for Contador at the Tour. He's already shown with his past success that the personality of the Giro parcours is generally to his liking.

 

[Electress]

It would play into his hands if they did accept the challenge. It would level the playing field for Contador at the Tour. He's already shown with his past success that the personality of the Giro parcours is generally to his liking.

The laugh is, as others have also pointed out, TS / Oleg / AC also reap rewards if they don't.

If I were Team Sky or Astana, I'd take up the gauntlet. I just don't think their 'worst case scenario' is that bad. Certainly a lot less bad than the worst case scenario if they don't participate.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Iimagine the excuse from velasco fans if he doesnt win my beloved II Giro....he wasnt 100% and the whole 100 yards.

 

[sir fly]

Why would Sky and Astana send Froome and Nibali to the Tour?
Aru and Henao will be just enough.

 

[Arnout]

It's not up to Tinkov, Contador or his fans to decide the race program of his opponents and call them out as cowards if they don't listen.

I'll just remind them that when Contador was as old as Nibali or Quintana he would only ride for half a season (if he wasn't banned, of course).

 

[Angliru]

Iimagine the excuse from velasco fans if he doesnt win my beloved II Giro....he wasnt 100% and the whole 100 yards.

Aren't you generalizing? Are all "Velasco" fans of the exact same opinions. You being a non-fan can we stick you in one little cubby hole with the extreme and less extreme?

 

[LaFlorecita]

Iimagine the excuse from velasco fans if he doesnt win my beloved II Giro....he wasnt 100% and the whole 100 yards.

Don't worry, he'll win

 

[ILovecycling]

Iimagine the excuse from velasco fans if he doesnt win my beloved II Giro....he wasnt 100% and the whole 100 yards.

only if you knock him off the bike

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Aren't you generalizing? Are all "Velasco" fans of the exact same opinions. You being a non-fan can we stick you in one little cubby hole with the extreme and less extreme?

Okay, you win ..some.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

only if you knock him off the bike

I won't, Airstream once said he should be shot but i am not that extreme.

 

[ILovecycling]

I won't, Airstream once said he should be shot but i am not that extreme.

lolz
btw you gonna visit couple of stages next year?

 

[Zam_Olyas]

lolz
btw you gonna visit couple of stages next year?

I am not my own boss now next year will be hectic for me anyway.

 

[Escarabajo]

I see that all fans become idiots regardless of who they are rooting for!

 

[ILovecycling]

I am not my own boss now next year will be hectic for me anyway.

not even weekend stages?
I dont like hard-working people

 

[richwagmn]

Tinkoff has been actively courting teams for a possible boycott of the Tour next year. He, and a few others, want to extract a revenue share from the ASO. Getting the top riders to ride the Giro is part of this strategy.

This would be a good thing wouldn't it? I've heard Vaughters for one complaining about it.

 

[ILovecycling]

I see that all fans become idiots regardless of who they are rooting for!

???

ten chars

 

[Escarabajo]

???

ten chars

It is just too long to explain.

I like Contador but I thought it was only Armstrong and Froome's fans that get blinded by their favorite riders. They want to believe almost anything. Like if it was just a video game.

Don't want to get into details because I don't want to argue with anyone.