Tirreno - Adriatico 2016 09/03/16 - 15/03/16 2.UWT

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Who will win the Race of Two Seas?

  • Pinot

    Votes: 16 15.5%
  • Uran

    Votes: 3 2.9%
  • Pozzovivo

    Votes: 1 1.0%
  • TJ

    Votes: 10 9.7%
  • Yates

    Votes: 4 3.9%
  • Rodriguez

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Other (Vino)

    Votes: 18 17.5%
  • Nibali

    Votes: 32 31.1%
  • Valverde

    Votes: 17 16.5%
  • Mollema

    Votes: 2 1.9%

  • Total voters
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Gianni Bugno said:
It saddens me to hear that there is still discontent. I regret that in the name of personal or private interests it is questioned the validity of a protocol developed for the common good.

This could become a dangerous precedent, if the authorities' decisions are disguised as common good, while being good only for some.
 
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Alexandre B. said:
Gianni Bugno, what a joke.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bugno-blasts-critics-of-tirreno-adriatico-stage-cancellation/

Riders made sacrifices for this race, and now he's praising the cancellation of a stage while the roads were okay.
What happened to you, cycling?

What a clown. Of course Nibali, Pinot, Mollema etc. are going to complain if their shot at a good result this race is taken from them. Of course BMC and Etixx are going to be happy when it favours them so much. What matters is that the most important stage got cancelled due to snow that never fell. Lots of riders were robbed of their chance to make something of this race and the fans are deprived of a serious race and all of this completely unnecessary.......
 
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Maaaaaaaarten said:
Alexandre B. said:
Gianni Bugno, what a joke.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/bugno-blasts-critics-of-tirreno-adriatico-stage-cancellation/

Riders made sacrifices for this race, and now he's praising the cancellation of a stage while the roads were okay.
What happened to you, cycling?

What a clown. Of course Nibali, Pinot, Mollema etc. are going to complain if their shot at a good result this race is taken from them. Of course BMC and Etixx are going to be happy when it favours them so much. What matters is that the most important stage got cancelled due to snow that never fell. Lots of riders were robbed of their chance to make something of this race and the fans are deprived of a serious race and all of this completely unnecessary.......

Exactly !!!

Had the stage been cancelled and heavy snow fallen, then all would be good, Pinot and co would be disappointed but with nobody to fault and the org would have taken the right decision... Alas the snow didn't materialise and now the org discovers why in cycling in 99% of those cases you
1/ wait til the morning of the stage to make a decision anyway and
2/ if on the morning the situation isn't clear (ie the MTF or passes aren't snowed out at this stage) you start the race and if unfortunately it starts snowing later and it sticks or you have brown ice well you cancel then.

This is how it has ALWAYS been done in cycling and for a good reason !
 
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TMP402 said:
Rollthedice said:
Alexandre B. said:
https://twitter.com/Mattbrammeier85/status/709034611863654401
I have no words...

He is insulting his own sport.

Who is this nobody?

He badly crashed last year.
So is this his try to get attention and showing everyone how dangerous the sport is while blaming anyone who wants to race in difficult conditions? If yes, he chose the false sport.
 
Why are there still people who seriously argue that the decision was right because of riders safety? How can someone say that when there was nothing that made the race dangerous. I'm so angry right now, especially on the riders saying it was a good decision because saying something like that is such a gigantic shame for cycling that its hard to put it into words.
 
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Let those Velon clown race their fixed crits on F1 circuits in the desert, an ASO molopoly would really be the lesser evil.
 
Yeah, now I'm gonna get unpopular...

So, they cancelled the stage a day before due to risk of snow, and then there wasn't any snow. Still seems better, to me, than having a risk of snow, still insisting on the stage being run, and then having to stop/people getting hurt.
I'd honestly rather have 10 races/stages getting cancelled each year, than having just one rider get injured from riding in bad weather.
 
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/vegni-hits-back-at-criticism-from-nibali-after-tirreno-adriatico-stage-cancellation/
“I’d like to make a simple comparison with what happened at Paris-Nice. Alberto Contador failed to win by just four seconds after a stage earlier in the race was cancelled because of extreme weather. Yet I don’t think Alberto complained, he accepted it as part of the sport,” Vegni told journalists in the press centre in Metalica, the town at the bottom of the Monte San Vicino climb after a testing 24 hours.

And now this clown compares the single-climber stage of his race with one of the three tough stages of Paris-Nice.
 
Gigs_98 said:
Why are there still people who seriously argue that the decision was right because of riders safety? How can someone say that when there was nothing that made the race dangerous. I'm so angry right now, especially on the riders saying it was a good decision because saying something like that is such a gigantic shame for cycling that its hard to put it into words.

How is racing at full tilt down the Poggio any less dangerous? It's part of the sport. There was no snow and 7 degrees at the top today.

Now I ask myself, with all the competition with the new World Tour races working against even the economic interests of Italian races, to say nothing of working against their historical worth, why must the organizers of Italian cycling participate in its own death??? What a flop. In compensation we got to see Contador grace Paris-Nice. It's just masochistic.
 
Gigs_98 said:
Why are there still people who seriously argue that the decision was right because of riders safety? How can someone say that when there was nothing that made the race dangerous. I'm so angry right now, especially on the riders saying it was a good decision because saying something like that is such a gigantic shame for cycling that its hard to put it into words.
Becuase that way they can claim anyone who disagrees with them is in it for the blood and doesn't care one bit about the riders as people, obviously.
 
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Alexandre B. said:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/vegni-hits-back-at-criticism-from-nibali-after-tirreno-adriatico-stage-cancellation/
“I’d like to make a simple comparison with what happened at Paris-Nice. Alberto Contador failed to win by just four seconds after a stage earlier in the race was cancelled because of extreme weather. Yet I don’t think Alberto complained, he accepted it as part of the sport,” Vegni told journalists in the press centre in Metalica, the town at the bottom of the Monte San Vicino climb after a testing 24 hours.

And now this clown compares the single-climber stage of his race with one of the three tough stages of Paris-Nice.

Furthermore that stage started and was canceled along the way and that's exactly what he should've done if it would've snowed.
 
Yeah, this is ridiculous. There was only ONE stage in T-A where GC contenders could do anything interesting and actually make time gaps. This stage was cancelled. Race will be decided predominantly by time trials. And this is not my definition of good race. Next time design more diversified and interesting race Mr. Vegni. Italy is not Qatar or Dubai.
 
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RedheadDane said:
Yeah, now I'm gonna get unpopular...

So, they cancelled the stage a day before due to risk of snow, and then there wasn't any snow. Still seems better, to me, than having a risk of snow, still insisting on the stage being run, and then having to stop/people getting hurt.
I'd honestly rather have 10 races/stages getting cancelled each year, than having just one rider get injured from riding in bad weather.
I often agree with you but not this time. They could have at least waited to see how the weather was today. This decision was premature and irrational, because weather forecast cant be trusted.
 
I would have been ok if they had waited to make the call until today. Even if the snow hadn't materialized, I would have been disappointed but I would have understood. A day in advance is just too early to make a weather call.
 
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RedheadDane said:
Yeah, now I'm gonna get unpopular...

So, they cancelled the stage a day before due to risk of snow, and then there wasn't any snow. Still seems better, to me, than having a risk of snow, still insisting on the stage being run, and then having to stop/people getting hurt.
I'd honestly rather have 10 races/stages getting cancelled each year, than having just one rider get injured from riding in bad weather.
If it started snowing then I would've supported cancelling the stage. However, it is silly to cancel the stage the day before when you are in the mountains of Central Italy notorious for being very hard for weathermen to predict when one out of five sites says it will snow. It wasn't even like every forecast in Italy said it was going to snow. Only a select few. Sadly, RCS likes to take their forecast from these.