Tirreno - Adriatico 2016 09/03/16 - 15/03/16 2.UWT

[carolina]

I know Nibali and others wanted to race, I respect that and I love him for it.

Like I said, I don't agree with the way things were done. If they wanted to cancel the stage they should have waited for today morning or find an alternative route.

However, I also don't think that Paris-Nice situation was perfect. They made the riders suffer for nothing instead of finding an alternative.

 

[veji11]

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I know Nibali and others wanted to race, I respect that and I love him for it.

Like I said, I don't agree with the way things were done. If they wanted to cancel the stage they should have waited for today morning or find an alternative route.

However, I also don't think that Paris-Nice situation was perfect. They made the riders suffer for nothing instead of finding an alternative.

The Paris Nice situation wasn't perfect of course, because in this situation it can't be perfect but it was dealt with the professional way considering the circumstances. The problem is that nowadays some team managers and riders just want certainty so much that they don't understand what road cycling is anymore. And it's sad.

 

[More Strides than Rides]

A lot of those tweets praising the cancellation are from yesterday; they were made before the reality of today's weather was known. Many of the tweets from today are less about the cancellation and more just bickering in the wake of yesterday's call-outs.

But to those saying "better safe than sorry" to justify the cancellation, yes, better safe than sorry, but there are soo many other choices too. You can have "Better a safe back up route than sorry" or "better a 4 hour forecast (instead of day before) than sorry" or a "better no time cut-off than sorry"/

The problem isn't that RCS erred on the side of safety, its that they did so with the worst possible choice. They showed no pragmatism in solving the problem. And while I'm a fan of action over inaction, there is no reason their Saturday press release couldn't have been "the route is on as planned but several alternative options will be upcoming. Stay tuned..."

Any other organization that shows a binary, go-or-no-go attitude in problem solving is not going to last long.

 

[carolina]

It's actually ironic that we have so many team managers and riders afraid of the snow, but last year no one cared when dozens of riders decided to go through the level crossing that was closing at paris-roubaix.

 

[Red Rick]

These guys make Andy Schleck look like Chuck Norris really

 

[Inquitus]

Well if Nibali doesn't want to try and win the Giro on account of mountain stages being potentially cancelled, I look forward to him livening up the battle for the minor placings at the Tour.

 

[veji11]

These guys make Andy Schleck look like Chuck Norris really

Really good/

 

[roundabout]

These guys make Andy Schleck look like Chuck Norris really

Ironic coming from a guy who started a thread to whine about Gallopin

 

[May0maniac]

These guys make Andy Schleck look like Chuck Norris really

We already have a contender for post of the year.

 

[Metabolol]

They are trying to destroy the racing spirit of cycling and turn everyone into mindless robots. Both Nibali and Contador were robbed in their respective races. The globalist powers always hide behind political correctness.

 

[staubsauger]

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It's actually ironic that we have so many team managers and riders afraid of the snow, but last year no one cared when dozens of riders decided to go through the level crossing that was closing at paris-roubaix.

Point!

That's when some easily could've died in fact!

 

[Inquitus]

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They are trying to destroy the racing spirit of cycling and turn everyone into mindless robots. Both Nibali and Contador were robbed in their respective races. The globalist powers always hide behind political correctness.

The Paris Nice stage that was cancelled was actually unraceable, have a look at the Katusha onboard video of the race conditions.

 

[veji11]

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They are trying to destroy the racing spirit of cycling and turn everyone into mindless robots. Both Nibali and Contador were robbed in their respective races. The globalist powers always hide behind political correctness.

The Paris Nice stage that was cancelled was actually unraceable, have a look at the Katusha onboard video of the race conditions.

That's why it was eventually stopped and cancelled !!

It's simple : You only stop a race or cancel it when it's unraceable. If you are not sure you start the race and once you get confirmation that it's not raceable you stop it. It's really that simple.

It's the right way to do it.

 

[Metabolol]

Re: Re:

They are trying to destroy the racing spirit of cycling and turn everyone into mindless robots. Both Nibali and Contador were robbed in their respective races. The globalist powers always hide behind political correctness.

The Paris Nice stage that was cancelled was actually unraceable, have a look at the Katusha onboard video of the race conditions.

They should have had an alternative route prepared, even if the stage ends up being much shortened. Also on the last stage Thomas was being paced by motorbikes. Seems like they are doing everything to favour the robots. Give us back real cycling and the corporate cyclists can sit and play with their power meters.

 

[Inquitus]

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They are trying to destroy the racing spirit of cycling and turn everyone into mindless robots. Both Nibali and Contador were robbed in their respective races. The globalist powers always hide behind political correctness.

The Paris Nice stage that was cancelled was actually unraceable, have a look at the Katusha onboard video of the race conditions.

They should have had an alternative route prepared, even if the stage ends up being much shortened. Also on the last stage Thomas was being paced by motorbikes. Seems like they are doing everything to favour the robots. Give us back real cycling and the corporate cyclists can sit and play with their power meters.

It was snowing at a very low level, there was not real possibility of shortening the stage. the snow was bad on the lowlands and worse on every small hill before the finish, look at the footage before you talk rubbish on an internet forum.

 

[Brullnux]

Yeah the Paris Nice stage was probably impossible. There was snow cover on the flats which isn't good. The descents also. Snowy descents are 100% a step too far. But this was disgraceful.

 

[Metabolol]

Of course there are options if you do your job properly. Short uphill TT with an A/B format on another day is one option etc.

 

[veji11]

Re: Re:

They are trying to destroy the racing spirit of cycling and turn everyone into mindless robots. Both Nibali and Contador were robbed in their respective races. The globalist powers always hide behind political correctness.

The Paris Nice stage that was cancelled was actually unraceable, have a look at the Katusha onboard video of the race conditions.

They should have had an alternative route prepared, even if the stage ends up being much shortened. Also on the last stage Thomas was being paced by motorbikes. Seems like they are doing everything to favour the robots. Give us back real cycling and the corporate cyclists can sit and play with their power meters.

It was snowing at a very low level, there was not real possibility of shortening the stage. the snow was bad on the lowlands and worse on every small hill before the finish, look at the footage before you talk rubbish on an internet forum.

And this is why they eventually stopped it : It became clear it couldn't be raced, it wasn't getting any better but worse, race stopped. As should be.

 

[Kwibus]

So is there anyway to unite against this blasphemy? This decision was ridiculous.... just never make these decisions the day before the stage.

This decision must be flamed really hard so that it will never happen again.

 

[veji11]

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So is there anyway to unite against this blasphemy? This decision was ridiculous.... just never make these decisions the day before the stage.

This decision must be flamed really hard so that it will never happen again.

And it is being rightfully flamed, we are very lucky it didn't snow otherwise this could have become a very bad habit....

 

[More Strides than Rides]

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It's actually ironic that we have so many team managers and riders afraid of the snow, but last year no one cared when dozens of riders decided to go through the level crossing that was closing at paris-roubaix.

I get what you're saying, but it's not really a comparison. One is a top down decision that riders must obey whether they like it or not. The other is bottom up: an individual rider's decision with no impact on anyone but themselves. And while I think that today's outrage is enough to make RCS think differently about such a myopic approach to a problem, you're right, there wasn't enough outrage for ASO to change their attitude for the future.

 

[SafeBet]

I love the fascist attitude from Vaughters. Agree with us and you're a good guy. Dissent and you're a selfish hijacker.

Pretty funny that even one of his riders said they should have raced it.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I love the fascist attitude from Vaughters. Agree with us and you're a good guy. Dissent and you're a selfish hijacker.

Pretty funny that even one of his riders said they should have raced it.

I don't have a single good word to say about Vaughters. What an idiot.

 

[LaFlorecita]

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Yeah the Paris Nice stage was probably impossible. There was snow cover on the flats which isn't good. The descents also. Snowy descents are 100% a step too far. But this was disgraceful.

According to De Jongh there was only snow above 700m and Brouilly was below 700m. So he suggested to go to Brouilly by bus and then do a circuit there.
There were also images from people on Mt Brouilly and there was little to no snow.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

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They are trying to destroy the racing spirit of cycling and turn everyone into mindless robots. Both Nibali and Contador were robbed in their respective races. The globalist powers always hide behind political correctness.

I'm highly entertained that you posted this borderline fascist drivel twice.