Tirreno-Adriatico, March 7-13, 2.UWT

[Rollthedice]

M-Scott best time. What?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Yates beats Sky!
Winds of change?

 

[LaFlorecita]

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I also have no idea what a TTT is doing in a race like this (or any race for that matter). The only effect is has, it that elimiates a lot of riders from the GC contention. I can't see how that is doing the race any good?

Agreed, I love watching TTTs but I don't like them in 1-week stage races, unless there is enough terrain to make up time. Same for long-ish ITTs (e.g. Algarve often has a ~20km TT). It really narrows down the field of potential GC candidates.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Interested to see how Trek do with a team mostly made up of big lumps

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

I also have no idea what a TTT is doing in a race like this (or any race for that matter). The only effect is has, it that elimiates a lot of riders from the GC contention. I can't see how that is doing the race any good?

Agreed, I love watching TTTs but I don't like them in 1-week stage races, unless there is enough terrain to make up time. Same for long-ish ITTs (e.g. Algarve often has a ~20km TT). It really narrows down the field of potential GC candidates.

Hey now, but you need to be able to buy a direct advantage into stage races don't you think

 

[tobydawq]

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Ah so you now only need 4 to cross the line? Presumably that's a consequence of reducing the team sizes. Is it 4 at GT's now too?

It has always been four in non Grand Tours (and yes, I think I have read that it will also be four in GTs from now).

 

[RedheadDane]

At for a sec there I was wondering what the *** Willier-Trestina was doing riding a TTT in Paris-Nice... I'd messed up which tab I had open; sound from Paris-Nice, footage from Tirreno-Adriatico.

 

[deValtos]

Thanks Toby.

It very much seems that the A teams do Tirreno and the B teams do Paris Nice more than ever these days. I was reading David Millars book a while back and I recall him pointing out it was down to the hotels and the weather that a lot of riders request to come to Italy.

 

[LaFlorecita]

BMC goes fastest by 4s! Caruso first to cross te line?

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Carrusa leader of GC

 

[TourOfSardinia]

Bora matching Sky at intermediate

 

[LaFlorecita]

Sunweb 25s down, BMC wins the TTT! Caruso first leader

 

[Rollthedice]

The overall will be between the Sky boys. The others can go home.

 

[Robert5091]

How the [bleep] did Mitchelton-Scott beat Sky's Big Boys Team? Took it easy?

 

[KGB]

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Cavendish crashed apparently

Again?Who took him down this time?

 

[Escarabajo]

Why do we have TTT?

The only thing I learned is that Movistar need to step it up for July or they will be doomed.

 

[Valv.Piti]

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Why do we have TTT?

The only thing I learned is that Movistar need to step it up for July or they will be doomed.

I say this kinda jokingly (its probably the truth tho), but they need their strongest engine in their lineup, Alejandro Valverde. As sad as that kinda is.

 

[Squire]

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Cavendish crashed apparently

Again?Who took him down this time?

"It was very likely a pothole that hit his back wheel," said Dimension Data director Rolf Aldag.

The pothole obviously moved across the road and took him out.

 

[Netserk]

Wasn't it also a pothole that made him hit Sagan and crash out from the Tour?

 

[May0maniac]

Someone should tell him that that's not what people mean when they say "riding like Contador gets you a ton of fans".

 

[Anderis]

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Ah so you now only need 4 to cross the line? Presumably that's a consequence of reducing the team sizes. Is it 4 at GT's now too?

It has always been four in non Grand Tours (and yes, I think I have read that it will also be four in GTs from now).

I don't think it has always been four in non Grand Tours. Not only I rembember that you needed 5 riders but I just went and checked T-A GC from previous years after stage 1. No team is classified with fewer than 5 riders with the same time.

I think the number of riders needed to make a time in TTTs is based on the following formula: you divide the maximum number of riders allowed per team by 2 and then you round it up if it is a fraction or add 1 if it is a full number. In other words the number of riders that crosses the line has to be bigger (and not equal!) than 50% of the number of riders that is allowed per team to field during the race.
So for races with 9 and 8 men teams (like pretty much every WT race before this year) the number is 5 and for races with 7 and 6 men teams (like the WC TTT in previous years) the number is 4. Not sure if it is written exactly like that in rules but I have not seen an exception of this in any race.

 

[Krokro]

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Someone should tell him that that's not what people mean when they say "riding like Contador gets you a ton of fans".

I see what you did there. Thanks, I love it

 

[Koronin]

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Why do we have TTT?

The only thing I learned is that Movistar need to step it up for July or they will be doomed.

I say this kinda jokingly (its probably the truth tho), but they need their strongest engine in their lineup, Alejandro Valverde. As sad as that kinda is.

Well if they are first or early out in a TTT they struggle even with Alenadro in the lineup, but if he's there they typically do a lot better in TTTs. Sutterlin is a good time trailist, but he's not T. Martin.

 

[Laplaz]

Yeah Movistar nothing special today... but the wind conditions were not good at the very beginning. But still strange that they can't beat teams like EF Drapac or UAE...

 

[Escarabajo]

Re: Re:

Ah so you now only need 4 to cross the line? Presumably that's a consequence of reducing the team sizes. Is it 4 at GT's now too?

It has always been four in non Grand Tours (and yes, I think I have read that it will also be four in GTs from now).

I don't think it has always been four in non Grand Tours. Not only I rembember that you needed 5 riders but I just went and checked T-A GC from previous years after stage 1. No team is classified with fewer than 5 riders with the same time.

I think the number of riders needed to make a time in TTTs is based on the following formula: you divide the maximum number of riders allowed per team by 2 and then you round it up if it is a fraction or add 1 if it is a full number. In other words the number of riders that crosses the line has to be bigger (and not equal!) than 50% of the number of riders that is allowed per team to field during the race.
So for races with 9 and 8 men teams (like pretty much every WT race before this year) the number is 5 and for races with 7 and 6 men teams (like the WC TTT in previous years) the number is 4. Not sure if it is written exactly like that in rules but I have not seen an exception of this in any race.

For 8 riders is an even 4 not 5. I guess it will be that way at the Tour.