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Tirreno-Adriatico stage 6: Montecosaro - Macerata 134km

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ye, I saw gesink coming over the final bit of the (steep) climb in front of the chasing group with evans in his rear, at one point i thought those 2 (scar. + garz.) blew them away.

good stage.

Dekker_Tifosi said:
Evans had to come from too far, just as Gesink. There are too many young dudes who think they have a chance and then ride in the way (Bakelants and co.)

ye i couldn't understand what gesink was doing so far back (like 10-15th place) when they hit the steep climb. It makes it that much harder to follow an attack.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Evans had to come from too far, just as Gesink. There are too many young dudes who think they have a chance and then ride in the way (Bakelants and co.)

It's a race. They're not allowed to try their hardest?
 
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theyoungest said:
What's the point if you don't stand a chance in hell of finishing at the front?

What, they're just supposed to get off the bike, stand to the side and let the other ones have a go? When are the lesser gods allowed to start their climb, a minute or two behind the big guns? Niels Albert always does that in 'cross, complain when a less accomplished rider beats him to points in the final sprint, and I don't like it. It's a race. If you wanna finish ahead of someone, then go faster than them.
(and Bakelants came in 21st, which is quite at the front in a race with 160 or so riders)
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Evans had to come from too far, just as Gesink. There are too many young dudes who think they have a chance and then ride in the way (Bakelants and co.)

I actually thought Cattle Evans rode it well, pacing himself up rather than trying to jump on the wheels of Garzelli/Scarponi. (Of course if he was already on their wheels, maybe he could have gone ahead).

There are two sprint points in the final 40km, wonder if Garzelli tries to get his two seconds.

Edit: I also thought Schleckette was going to win the stage when I saw a glimpse of him in the main group :(
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Ofcourse, but there is a thing called respect in the peloton.

I'll watch the final k again once my computer realises that yes, video streams usually move, but I didn't see Bakelants getting in the way of Gesink. (admittedly, I was watching over my shoulder while providing someone without access to streams with a running commentary)
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Ofcourse, but there is a thing called respect in the peloton.

I don't follow...I agree that there should be respect but it should be a la the type of respect in the Voigt/Garate Giro situation in 2006.

I have no problem with anybody trying to get to the foot of the climb in first position as long as they don't cause an accident by getting to the front (that applies to contenders as well).

Positioning is part of road racing, whether it is postioning to get to a climb, set of cobbles, staying out of the wind etc.

Some have very good positionaning skills and can save energy by doing so- some riders are notoriously bad.

An example -

You will often see sprinters getting to the front of the bunch on the Cipressa or Poggio, this is tactical and to ensure that they don't start at the back when the going gets tough. Now its likely that Gesink if he rides San Remo can climb better than all the sprinters combined, does that mean he should be allowed a free ride to the front of the bunch...no. It's his team's job to lead him to the front. It is natural in the situation that many teams want to get to the front, and part of racing is being in the right position at the start of climbs.
 
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Jan the Man said:
I don't follow...I agree that there should be respect but it should be a la the type of respect in the Voigt/Garate Giro situation in 2006.

I have no problem with anybody trying to get to the foot of the climb in first position as long as they don't cause an accident by getting to the front (that applies to contenders as well).

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Agreed, in his logic Sagan shouldn't have been allowed near the front of the peloton in PN because of age/experience/status.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Evans had to come from too far, just as Gesink. There are too many young dudes who think they have a chance and then ride in the way (Bakelants and co.)

These guys are allowed to defend their chances as well as the "champions". If Gesink and Evans have troubles positioning against these minor riders, how terrible will this be against their real opponents? Gesink & Evans both have elbows, no? Well then use it!
 
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Waterloo Sunrise said:
Seeing as I can't find a thread for tomorrow yet, I'll post it here.

Cav FTW - pancake flat finish, 12 day (roughly) racing in his legs now.

Unless, of course, he continues his fiendish misinformation campaign before MSR...

You may be right that he will have improved by now, but he may as well hold off and not show anything until Milan-San Remo. It'd be to his advantage, I think.
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
Hoste is a born loser.

Boogerd had tons of 2nd places, but you never heard him complain, he was always 'happy to have made the race', didn't seem to care about winning or italians sticking to his wheel liike glue and never doing anything.

+1 totally agree Dekker_Tifosi................Boogerd is a legend.....and true Professional...with plenty of riding style.
 
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Ferminal said:
I actually thought Cattle Evans rode it well, pacing himself up rather than trying to jump on the wheels of Garzelli/Scarponi. (Of course if he was already on their wheels, maybe he could have gone ahead).

There are two sprint points in the final 40km, wonder if Garzelli tries to get his two seconds.

Edit: I also thought Schleckette was going to win the stage when I saw a glimpse of him in the main group :(
Evans' comments on stage.

I left my charge a little late and to get pipped on the line by Garzelli for second. Probably would have helped if I could have got on my drops to get a bit more power on the road, but with the tight steep corners and shuffling around to get into a good position, I didn't find the half second to do so

Also a tad dissapointed by Mick rogers' peformance in tirenno. He had some very good form coming into the race with his win in Ruta del Sol and I thought he would feature a bit more in the finishes.
 
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After Cadel's stage five blunder, his stage six attack was near-brilliant except they waited too long to win. What he accomplished was to secure third place. Gosh, for me that would be the result of my life, but for him it's not much, eh? Still, I am enjoying the fireworks...GOOO Ca-DEL!
 
Dekker_Tifosi said:
I wouldn't be dissapointed with Rogers auscyclefan, he is performing right on his level, don't forget the competition in Ruta del Sol is of a lower level than here.

Which had a TT.

I don't think there's any reason to be disappointed, I wouldn't say he's the best on these short steep efforts, and he's only 2 seconds behind Gesink.

Edit: Can we move discussions to the Stage 7 thread.