Considering he is the current Italian Time Trial Champion - the short answer is no.hfer07 said:before we start speculations: Was Cataldo's ITT today within the OK parameters or just another "marginal improvement"????
IMO it was a helluva ride![]()
Considering he is the current Italian Time Trial Champion - the short answer is no.hfer07 said:before we start speculations: Was Cataldo's ITT today within the OK parameters or just another "marginal improvement"????
IMO it was a helluva ride![]()
It was bad. After all, he's the Italian TT champion, and Malori beat him todayhfer07 said:before we start speculations: Was Cataldo's ITT today within the OK parameters or just another "marginal improvement"????
IMO it was a helluva ride![]()
A bit of a digression but what does it matter who he lost to and what their achievements are. yeah wiggins was a good tter in 2010. Does that mean if it had been Tony Martin rather than wiggins who won that tt froome would have been an even better tter?King Boonen said:2nd behind Wiggins, who was pretty decent in 2010, won the ITT at the Giro .
he is italian itt champion, defeating malori and pinotti, but I'm sure the clinic will agree with you...hfer07 said:before we start speculations: Was Cataldo's ITT today within the OK parameters or just another "marginal improvement"????
IMO it was a helluva ride![]()
no, but you can post froomes uphill results if you want.Ryo Hazuki said:froome lost little more than 1 minute over 52 km in that itt, which is very good, he also beat thomas btw. should I post some wiggins itt results of 2010 and 2009?![]()
cancellara in 2012 is not great long distance itt rider. not to be compared to 2010 wigginsThe Hitch said:A bit of a digression but what does it matter who he lost to and what their achievements are. yeah wiggins was a good tter in 2010. Does that mean if it had been Tony Martin rather than wiggins who won that tt froome would have been an even better tter?
By your logic Thomas Frei is a great tter because he came 2nd to cancellara in the suisse nats.
Selective edit, he was between Wiggins and Thomas. I'm not claiming Thomas is as good as Wiggins, but he can time trial well. The time differences also suggest Froome is pretty good.The Hitch said:A bit of a digression but what does it matter who he lost to and what their achievements are. yeah wiggins was a good tter in 2010. Does that mean if it had been Tony Martin rather than wiggins who won that tt froome would have been an even better tter?
By your logic Thomas Frei is a great tter because he came 2nd to cancellara in the suisse nats.
if you hate the clinic so much why dont you grow some balls and confront them there rather than complain and whisper behind their backs?Ryo Hazuki said:he is italian itt champion, defeating malori and pinotti, but I'm sure the clinic will agree with you...![]()
well look what I found within seconds...:The Hitch said:no, but you can post froomes uphill results if you want.
We should let that strawman blow away in the wind I think.The Hitch said:no, but you can post froomes uphill results if you want.
Giro 2011 final TT was actually good GC wise, only Nibali was 8 seconds in front him. TdS 2012 wasn't that bad considering Giro in his legs and extremely hard schedule he absolved until than.theyoungest said:Kreuziger only does well in uphill TTs. On every other course he's been crap for years now.
whiper behind their backs? lol. I often go there to have a good laugh and throw around my arguments there, besides the clinic is changing rapidly in having the idiots like the hog being exposed for what they are. and for arguments explain to me why sky are still doped and de jongh and julich were fired after signing that contract, you honeslty think they would;'ve signed that contract if they were still doping in sky?The Hitch said:if you hate the clinic so much why dont you grow some balls and confront them there rather than complain and whisper behind their backs?
and better yet, as an u23 rider:Ryo Hazuki said:well look what I found within seconds...:
1 David Moncoutié (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne 4.36.00 (38.434 km/h)
2 Mauricio Soler (Col) Barloworld 0.07
3 Christopher Froome (GBr) Barloworld 0.13
4 Jussi Veikkanen (Fin) Française des Jeux 0.44
5 Jonathan Hivert (Fra) Skil-Shimano 0.47
6 Sergey Lagutin (Uzb) Vacansoleil Pro Cycling Team 0.49
7 Rémi Pauriol (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne 0.51
8 Vladimir Efimkin (Rus) AG2R La Mondiale 0.52
9 Damien Monier (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne
10 Amaël Moinard (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne 0.54
11 Jerome Coppel (Fra) Française des Jeux 0.56
12 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne
13 Daniel Martin (Irl) Garmin - Slipstream 0.58
14 Rein Taaramae (Est) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne 1.00
15 Cyril Gautier (Fra) Bbox Bouygues Telecom
mont faron, a climb that is short for froome even
Slightly related, What's the point of wasting time there really tbh ?The Hitch said:if you hate the clinic so much why dont you grow some balls and confront them there rather than complain and whisper behind their backs?
so it is the second coming!!!!!!!!we are witnesses to this!Ryo Hazuki said:1 Grega Bole 3.55.21
2 Christ Froome
3 Anton Reshetnikov 0.10
4 Simon Clarke
5 Kristijan Koren
6 Julien El Fares
7 Andrius Buividas
8 Dennis Van Winden
9 Michal Skvarka
10 Andrey Solemennnikov
indeed and back in 2006 in suisse they already knew!jens_attacks said:so it is the second coming!!!!!!!!we are witness to this!
Gloin22 said:Considering he is the current Italian Time Trial Champion - the short answer is no.
theyoungest said:It was bad. After all, he's the Italian TT champion, and Malori beat him today
I understand if you didn't know he was the TT champ, after all you can hardly see it on his kit.
Ryo Hazuki said:he is italian itt champion, defeating malori and pinotti, but I'm sure the clinic will agree with you...![]()
Habemus papam.jens_attacks said:so it is the second coming!!!!!!!!we are witnesses to this!
Of course we (the ones who argued that it wasn't likely) didn't think Alberto would be in this horrible shape.SafeBet said:Great ride by Amador!
After all Nibbles can beat Contador in a short TT. Told ya weeks ago.
Yeah and Contador is finally human.LaFlorecita said:Yea but apparently it's fastNibbles and Alberto looked great on the bike