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Dr. Maserati

Dr. Maserati

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9000ft said:
Naw, Doc, I just drop in once and a while to check up to see how it's all going and to poke fun. You guys are all so serious.
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No, you just drop in to show some sort of superiority.


9000ft said:
Look at the post counts. Judging by that, there are a lot of guys here who must do little else but post on the CN clinic forum all day (especially ones that have anything to do with Mr. Armstrong). Honestly, I just find it absolutely fascinating.
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Actually most of us with high posts counts get that because we post on many different threads and topics.

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Anyway, you didn't address the substance of my post which is: Most people(not all for sure), the people who buy tickets, watch on TV, follow the sports and so on, IE: those who directly or indirectly bring money into pro sports, really don't care that much about PEDs. If they did, either the money would dry up, or pro sports would get serious about the issue.
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Hard to address a bogus point.
If people "really don't care that much about PEDs", why do sports (& athletes) try so hard to deny the ongoing doping then?

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Nor did you address my claim that those who seem to hate doping so much also talk with disdain about anyone who races like they might be clean.
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Again - why would I address another made up point?
 
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not sucha nice guy manny

A heated altercation between Ramirez and Kevin Youkilis took place on June 5, during a game at Fenway against the Tampa Bay Rays. It was prompted either, as the Boston Globe speculated, by Youkilis complaining about Ramirez having been slow in joining his teammates in a bench-clearing brawl two innings earlier (lagging behind even the team's pitchers, who ran in from the bullpen), or by Ramirez objecting to what he believed was excessive complaining by Youkilis about the strike zone, as well as the first baseman's penchant for sometimes throwing his helmet in frustration after making an out.[22][23] Before the fifth inning, Ramirez was caught on NESN cameras taking a swing at Youkilis.[24] Ramirez and Youkilis yelled at each other, and had to be separated by teammates, coaches, and training staff. Youkilis headed out to the field still barking at Ramirez, while Ramirez was escorted into the tunnel leading to the clubhouse by bench coach Brad Mills and trainer Paul Lessard.[25][24]

Later in the season, during a series with the Houston Astros, Ramirez had a physical altercation with elderly Red Sox traveling secretary Jack McCormick. The two were arguing over the traveling secretary' inability to fill Ramirez's large game-day request for 16 tickets to the game in Houston. Ramirez pushed the 64-year-old McCormick to the ground,[26][22] after telling him "Just do your job." The two were quickly separated, and Ramirez later apologized.[27][28] The matter was dealt with internally, and Ramirez was fined.

On July 25, after sitting out one game against the Seattle Mariners with a sore knee, Ramirez was slated to start against the Yankees. Several minutes before the game, however, he informed manager Terry Francona, through a bench coach, that he would not be playing. During the series Ramirez was directed to an area hospital for MRIs on both his knees; the results showed no damage.[29] When back in action, Ramirez frequently failed to run out ground balls. Assuming that this was due to his displeasure about his contract situation, many Red Sox fans and reporters, including Dan Shaughnessy of the Boston Globe, called for Ramirez to be traded.

From wikipedia
 
Dr. Maserati

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9000ft said:
Hater, fanboy? Hey I was just replying to a specific post in which another person used the terms. Terms which by the way are widely used here. Try posting anything that is remotely positive or even neutral of Mr. Armstrong, whether it has merit or not and see what label you'll be plastered with.


PS: Man, with all that evil malice and clever ability to exploit people, I'm surprised LA isn't emperor of the world by now. I'm glad you guys are here to keep him in check. Otherwise we'd all be forced to wear yellow bracelets. :)
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When you say that these are terms that are widely used here - again you may be just discussing yourself.

Here is one of your first posts on this forum from March 2010:
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I put myself as someone who doesn't know how clean or not clean LA is/was and isn't too worked up about it one way or another and would be surprised one way or another. This is pretty much how I look at all professional cyclists. I have never met the man and certainly do not know him so I do not pretend to know what kind of a person he is, whether a saint of the cancer world or the biggest a$$hole that ever lived. Don't really consider it my business since I look at him as a bke racer and not a personal friend. I do admire his athletic achievements. Clean or not, the man owned what is probably the hardest test of endurance, will, and guts in the world for 7 years against a field of the worlds most elite -clean or not - cyclists.

What really amuses me though is how worked up so many people get about the guy. How many people who think they know him, what he does, who he sleeps with, etc. The reaction, more so from the haters than from the fanboys is facinating.
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Dr. Maserati said:
When you say that these are terms that are widely used here - again you may be just discussing yourself.

Here is one of your first posts on this forum from March 2010:
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I think you made his point perfectly doc, well done.
 
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9000ft said:
Hater, fanboy? Hey I was just replying to a specific post in which another person used the terms. Terms which by the way are widely used here. Try posting anything that is remotely positive or even neutral of Mr. Armstrong, whether it has merit or not and see what label you'll be plastered with.


PS: Man, with all that evil malice and clever ability to exploit people, I'm surprised LA isn't emperor of the world by now. I'm glad you guys are here to keep him in check. Otherwise we'd all be forced to wear yellow bracelets. :)
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I haven't been labelled either but have been debated when appropriate, which I appreciate.
As for your characterization of Lance, he's neither of those things. He has a long list of lampreys that have been living off of him and steering his course. He is a jock that wanted more than his ability could rightfully claim and now he is protecting it by lying. That makes him human and not a particularly admirable version.
 
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NEW YORK — Braves minor league pitcher Darrel Leiva has been suspended 50 games without pay after testing positive for metabolites of Nandrolone and Stanazolol, two forms of steroids. Major League Baseball made the announcement Friday.

Leiva, who turned 18 on July 31, was pitching in the Dominican Summer League, and his suspension — without pay – was effective immediately.

“We agree with and adhere to MLB’s drug policy,” said Bruce Manno, Braves assistant general manager and player development director. “Players are aware of the consequences and we support the decision.”

There have been 68 suspensions this year under the minor league drug program, including 10 just this week. Phillies minor league pitcher Gabriel Bermudez was also suspended Friday after testing positive for Stanozolol.

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I was rather amazed at the bold part. First time I have heard about a suspension this year. Are journalists not reporting them ?
 
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Sorry; to clarify, the timeliness of this article appears dependent on the MLB announcement. Perhaps for low-profile athletes, they are burping out info from time to time, leaving sports writers/bloggers to report about notable offenders, if any.
 
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Catwhoorg said:
I'm also rather saddened by the fact this guy was 18.
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Aside from attempting to gain performance, baseball's dogma-driven practices of overworking pitchers continually leaves these players, even young ones, teetering on the edge of severe overuse injuries unless they turn to drugs.
 
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TheInternet said:
Aside from attempting to gain performance, baseball's dogma-driven practices of overworking pitchers continually leaves these players, even young ones, teetering on the edge of severe overuse injuries unless they turn to drugs.
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Not that it's relevant but how many of these guys come from the same neighborhood as most of the Olympic sprinters? We're not talking big population groups here. These guys all know what is being sold; they're just not sophisticated enough to avoid getting caught.
 
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Great work by the intrepid doping controls in catching this cheater.

Is there any way we can get USADA to investigate the other members of the Red Sox and then strip them of their 2004 and 2007 World Series titles? Let's face it, the Red Sox were more fun when they were cursed.
 
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Catwhoorg said:
NEW YORK — Braves minor league pitcher Darrel Leiva has been suspended 50 games without pay after testing positive for metabolites of Nandrolone and Stanazolol, two forms of steroids. Major League Baseball made the announcement Friday.

Leiva, who turned 18 on July 31, was pitching in the Dominican Summer League, and his suspension — without pay – was effective immediately.

“We agree with and adhere to MLB’s drug policy,” said Bruce Manno, Braves assistant general manager and player development director. “Players are aware of the consequences and we support the decision.”

There have been 68 suspensions this year under the minor league drug program, including 10 just this week. Phillies minor league pitcher Gabriel Bermudez was also suspended Friday after testing positive for Stanozolol.

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I was rather amazed at the bold part. First time I have heard about a suspension this year. Are journalists not reporting them ?
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I was checking on UK anti doping for # of tests they carry out on cyclists.Found rugby guys getting busted left right and centre,if was a single cyclist would be big news.Rugby not a peep.
 
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Melky's career trajectory was highly suggestive of doping. His first five years in the league he did absolutely nothing. His fifth year in the league was his worst, and he had pretty much dropped off the map. Then, starting in the 2011 season, he became the best player on his team, and this year he was a world beater. So in two years time he went from being a veteran player in danger of failing to make a major league roster to being one of the best players in the league. Very believable.
 
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At least so far it seems like Melky isn't making some lame excuse about how he accidentally tripped a positive although it might be a tougher road to explain synthetic testosterone than, say, some diuretic. Not that I'm ok with him taking PEDs but it's at least a little refreshing that somebody for once in recorded history is (at least tacitly) owning up to it.

Quick tangent: When Ryan Braun got out of his positive (on an eyebrow-raising technicality), thus avoiding a 50-game suspension and started carving up National League pitching once more, all the talking heads here in the U.S. were discussing how he silenced his critics and see, he didn't need PEDs to be an MVP-caliber player. I just find it comical that the media here still seems to think that "not failing a drug test" means you're above suspicion. Yep, we still have a long way to go here.
 
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Also interesting is the fact that there were rumors back in July that Melky had failed a drug test. These were reported on by the press, but nothing ever came of them until now. Melky denied that he failed any test, although he did first check with the player's union to see if he had failed a test, which indicates that he was worried about it. In retrospect, his need to verify that he was clean with his union was a dead give away that he was dirty.

Anyway, here is one journalist's apology to Melky for spreading "rumors" of the failed test:

http://www.csnbayarea.com/baseball-...ublic-apology-to-Melky-Cabrera?blockID=747609

Let this be a reminder that, in doping, where there is smoke, there is often fire.
 
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Victor Conte was asked by USA Today to make an educated guess as to how many players in baseball are using PEDs:

"I would say maybe as much as half of baseball".

"To circumvent the test is like taking candy from a baby," he said, according to USA Today. "It's so easy to circumvent. I call it the 'duck-and-dodge' system. The only people that get caught are the dumb, and the dumber."

http://espn.go.com/mlb/story/_/id/8274284/victor-conte-melky-cabrera-one-many-mlb-peds
 
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