Todays idiot masters fattie doper

[Rockets160]

And in the most hilarious news for some time a board member of the Danish Cycling Federation has tested positive for testosterone and 2 glucocorticoids in a masters race.

http://cyclingworld.dk/index.php?p=nyheder/profil.php&id=23718 (in Danish)

In English:http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/danish-federation-board-member-positive-for-doping

What a freaking joke...

 

[DominicDecoco]

And in the most hilarious news for some time a board member of the Danish Cycling Federation has tested positive for testosterone and 2 glucocorticoids in a masters race.

http://cyclingworld.dk/index.php?p=nyheder/profil.php&id=23718 (in Danish)

His explanation: http://translate.google.com/transla...trabladet.dk/sport/cykling/article1816352.ece

And Nicki Sørensen's reaction to a 40+ year old caught doping in a veteran race: http://sporten.tv2.dk/2012-08-29-tv-nicki-sørensen-griner-af-morsom-dopingsag

" I think it's kind of funny in a way, haha. I do not hope that all you 40+ at home on the roads starts thinking they have to dope to be able beat eachother, haha! To be honest I find rather funny, haha".

 

[roundabout]

Oh, it get's better.

He was also a member of the board at a company specializing in testing athlete samples.

He also raced 2 races knowing that he recently took testosterone. But it's ok, he didn't win.

What a moron. And a hypocrite with a capital "h", unless DCU zero tolerance of doping is as real as this *******s personal tolerance.

 

[ElChingon]

Oh, it get's better.

He was also a member of the board at a company specializing in testing athlete samples.

He also raced 2 races knowing that he recently took testosterone. But it's ok, he didn't win.

What a moron. And a hypocrite with a capital "h", unless DCU zero tolerance of doping is as real as this *******s personal tolerance.

You'd think he'd of known how to hide his TUE usage, or at least known who to pay off

Lastly, do they really test over 40 racers? At that age does it really matter for the non-Pro's?

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Lastly, do they really test over 40 racers? At that age does it really matter for the non-Pro's?

Given the title, content and length of this thread, I would have thought that it was self evident.

But being less flippant, yes they do, although at far less frequency than professional cycling.

The testers might show up at masters championships, or the occasional race, but more likely when given a tip off about someone under strong suspicion. And anyone seeking to set a masters age group record and/or have a record ratified is required to have testing done and passed (e.g. say you set the world best 60+ 2km pursuit time, then you have the option if the testing agency is not already present and doing a control on you off their own dime, to pay for them to come and test you).

 

[D-Queued]

Latest insight on idiot fatty masters dopers are 'records' posted in Strava.com.

Honestly, folks are posting cycling records from car trips. 50 mph for 20 minutes with no HR?

It is demoralizing sometimes to see how dishonest humans can be.

Dave.

 

[Alex Simmons/RST]

Latest insight on idiot fatty masters dopers are 'records' posted in Strava.com.

Honestly, folks are posting cycling records from car trips. 50 mph for 20 minutes with no HR?

It is demoralizing sometimes to see how dishonest humans can be.

Dave.

That's just the idiocy of Strava's GIGO process, and of people attaching any importance or credibility to it.

 

[joe_papp]

That's just the idiocy of Strava's GIGO process, and of people attaching any importance or credibility to it.

Hence why I would be ashamed to admit in public that my competitive validation was realized through Strava (which it's not, of course). Apparently though it's a favorite of many of the VeloNews' readers, as I found out after mocking the system there lol...

 

[BroDeal]

Latest insight on idiot fatty masters dopers are 'records' posted in Strava.com.

Honestly, folks are posting cycling records from car trips. 50 mph for 20 minutes with no HR?

It is demoralizing sometimes to see how dishonest humans can be.

Motorcycle, dude. The trick is to make the time unreachable but not so unreachable that it appears unrealistic.

 

[Criteriums!]

When I finally downloaded a bunch of rides on to strava I had a good laugh at all the ridiculous times... Like 60mph/100kph top speeds at the end of our Saturday morning weekly world championships. I think it is pretty funny that guys cheat on strava!

 

[zigmeister]

You make the wrong case:

Most likely believe, even if having below normal levels for their age that would justify the TUE, don't even want to make an application. Once you make an application, it is clear you either 1) have intentions of taking HRT, or 2) already taking HRT/Test for the condition and testing you would return a positive obviously.

I would think many in this position would likely just take their chances of getting tested, rather tell USAC/USADA they are applying for the TUE.

You just described someone willing to cheat. They make an internal judgement based on their own desired outcome. THAT IS WHAT IS WRONG WITH SPORTS.

I can take Albuterol and can get a TUE. Because the condition only really affects me when I race at certain times; I made the judgement that is was extraneous to my real life and do not take the medication.

To jump from treating real conditions for people with health problems to banning all FDA approved medications is ridiculous. The truth is in your statement above: once an athlete justifies a diversion from the rules he/she is potentially cheating. The rules are there, however flawed; to define the parameters of the game. Don't like the rules-find a different game.

You must have missed the part about ignorance regarding recognized medical conditions by the general public. Your statement clearly exhibits yours. Or a clear wilingness to not have a level playing field, which is the mantra of USAC and USADA. They used those terms explicitly regarding the case against LA many times for justification.

You also argue that the rules are flawed. Deal with it is your response? Genius.

You are perpetuating the hypocrisy and making my argument on my behalf well.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3293733

Albuterol doesnt even need a TUE.

 

[BroDeal]

And in the most hilarious news for some time a board member of the Danish Cycling Federation has tested positive for testosterone and 2 glucocorticoids in a masters race.

http://cyclingworld.dk/index.php?p=nyheder/profil.php&id=23718 (in Danish)

Give the guy a break. He was preparing for the New York Gran Fondo.

 

[Maxiton]

His explanation: http://translate.google.com/transla...trabladet.dk/sport/cykling/article1816352.ece

And Nicki Sørensen's reaction to a 40+ year old caught doping in a veteran race: http://sporten.tv2.dk/2012-08-29-tv-nicki-sørensen-griner-af-morsom-dopingsag

" I think it's kind of funny in a way, haha. I do not hope that all you 40+ at home on the roads starts thinking they have to dope to be able beat eachother, haha! To be honest I find rather funny, haha".

Wait, you mean we don't have to?

 

[Oldman]

You must have missed the part about ignorance regarding recognized medical conditions by the general public. Your statement clearly exhibits yours. Or a clear wilingness to not have a level playing field, which is the mantra of USAC and USADA. They used those terms explicitly regarding the case against LA many times for justification.

You also argue that the rules are flawed. Deal with it is your response? Genius.

You are perpetuating the hypocrisy and making my argument on my behalf well.


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3293733

Albuterol doesnt even need a TUE.

"Deal with it" as you say: is exactly the point. If you don't like it, help change the rules.
Instead you suggest that I'm ignorant of recognized medical conditions.

Sorry for you that any and all "recognized medical conditions" aren't part of the allowed mix. They aren't for a reason and that is the necessity for medication is unique to each individual and not practically monitorable by any federation. I'm not ignorant of medical conditions as I have many limitations that could be medically corrected. If I need to do that to play in this sport and the rules do not allow it; that is my problem. I'll deal with that or help change the rules. I don't advocated dumbing down the rules to allow every individual to choose what's appropriate as there are plenty of guys that don't draw the line between health and an inequal advantage. You know that and it is the point of the thread.

 

[D-Queued]

When I finally downloaded a bunch of rides on to strava I had a good laugh at all the ridiculous times... Like 60mph/100kph top speeds at the end of our Saturday morning weekly world championships. I think it is pretty funny that guys cheat on strava!

I KOM'd some puckhead who drove his car through my favorite sprint today. Of course, I wasn't doing 73k at the end though.

Dave.

 

[frenchfry]

And in the most hilarious news for some time a board member of the Danish Cycling Federation has tested positive for testosterone and 2 glucocorticoids in a masters race.

http://cyclingworld.dk/index.php?p=nyheder/profil.php&id=23718 (in Danish)

So we have corruption at the highest level (UCI), dopers running the show at the national level (above story), known doping doctors employed by numerous teams, a peloton that overall seems to love dopers given the nature of the reactions to Armstrongs USADA case, and omerta practiced by virtually everyone involved in pro cycling.

Somehow I am not reassured that cycling has indeed moved forward into a non-doping era.

 

[zigmeister]

"Deal with it" as you say: is exactly the point. If you don't like it, help change the rules.
Instead you suggest that I'm ignorant of recognized medical conditions.

Sorry for you that any and all "recognized medical conditions" aren't part of the allowed mix. They aren't for a reason and that is the necessity for medication is unique to each individual and not practically monitorable by any federation. I'm not ignorant of medical conditions as I have many limitations that could be medically corrected. If I need to do that to play in this sport and the rules do not allow it; that is my problem. I'll deal with that or help change the rules. I don't advocated dumbing down the rules to allow every individual to choose what's appropriate as there are plenty of guys that don't draw the line between health and an inequal advantage. You know that and it is the point of the thread.

You still haven't read and comprehended what I said. BAN ALL THINGS.

Not, let's allow TUE and exceptions to give some people an advantage, or not even need a TUE for a pharmaceutical drug (albuterol as an example, which my link and study clearly showed provides an advantage to cyclists while being used).

Then, anybody who has some condition will be excluded, unless they don't take any of the drugs altogether. That is the natural, fair and "that's life" method that should be employed. Will this exclude more people to be involved in competition? Indeed it will!

Changing the system and people's attitudes is impossible. The only way to deal with what people perceive as fair, is to make it as harsh and plain as possible, ban everything. There is no questions, no exceptions, and no excuses for anybody then.

That is fair and level.

 

[Oldman]

You still haven't read and comprehended what I said. BAN ALL THINGS.

Not, let's allow TUE and exceptions to give some people an advantage, or not even need a TUE for a pharmaceutical drug (albuterol as an example, which my link and study clearly showed provides an advantage to cyclists while being used).

Then, anybody who has some condition will be excluded, unless they don't take any of the drugs altogether. That is the natural, fair and "that's life" method that should be employed. Will this exclude more people to be involved in competition? Indeed it will!

Changing the system and people's attitudes is impossible. The only way to deal with what people perceive as fair, is to make it as harsh and plain as possible, ban everything. There is no questions, no exceptions, and no excuses for anybody then.

That is fair and level.

I read what you had submitted and did not get an indication that you thought banning drugs altogether was an approach to clean competition. I that count I totally agree with you. Regulation would always be a challenge in this genetically modified world as very few food sources haven't been manipulated.

 

[BroDeal]

55 year old triathlete busted for testosterone. Won his Kona age group multiple times in the past. He was tested out of competition.

http://lavamagazine.com/news/wtc-announces-anti-doping-rule-violation-2/#axzz29fj3CteG

According to people on Slowtwitch, he had a history of cheating by drafting.

 

[happychappy]

His wife sure as hell hasn't been "busted" Ho ho ho.

 

[BroDeal]

His wife sure as hell hasn't been "busted" Ho ho ho.

LOL.

There are some good stories about this guy on Slowtwitch. He races with a mirror on his bike so he can see race marshals coming up from behind. It allows him to draft without getting caught. Several people have posted about him drafting them for entire races. Evidently he is a real jerk. Lots of funny examples for that.

 

[zigmeister]

I read what you had submitted and did not get an indication that you thought banning drugs altogether was an approach to clean competition. I that count I totally agree with you. Regulation would always be a challenge in this genetically modified world as very few food sources haven't been manipulated.

Yes, that is my proposal. You compete with what you were born with. Therefore, if you have "asthma" go play chess or take up a sport where they don't do drug testing where it give you a clear advantage, yet other drugs are not allowed in the dame vain.

 

[zigmeister]

55 year old triathlete busted for testosterone. Won his Kona age group multiple times in the past. He was tested out of competition.

http://lavamagazine.com/news/wtc-announces-anti-doping-rule-violation-2/#axzz29fj3CteG

According to people on Slowtwitch, he had a history of cheating by drafting.

Well, he might be on Test...Ok, maybe get a TUE for that, not that it has ever been reported that USAC/WADA has actually ever approved one.

But, his wife/girlfriend is friggin ripped as well.

 

[knewcleardaze]

Well, he might be on Test...Ok, maybe get a TUE for that, not that it has ever been reported that USAC/WADA has actually ever approved one.

But, his wife/girlfriend is friggin ripped as well.

She's so ripped she looka like a man

 

[The Gnome]

LOL.

There are some good stories about this guy on Slowtwitch. He races with a mirror on his bike so he can see race marshals coming up from behind. It allows him to draft without getting caught. Several people have posted about him drafting them for entire races. Evidently he is a real jerk. Lots of funny examples for that.

funny stuff...there is a whole thread on folks arguing about drafting...seems like drafting in the tri world all comes down to an "optical illusion"!

Our crowd can be pretty annoying, but the tri gang are flat out asinine...