Todays idiot masters fattie doper

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this_is_edie said:
I have no idea if this guy was but yes it is strange to see resources & money spent on testing masters.

Peter isn't exactly your prototypical industrial park crit monster:

The decision disqualifies Cannell from his 2009 national masters time trial championship, which should pass down to Ian Stanford of Winona, Minnesota. The 2008 masters title will now go to Eric Bean of Madison, Wisconsin and the 2007 masters road race title to Matthew Johnson of New Haven, Connecticut.

But your point is still well-taken
 
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and of course since the masters' field is pretty notorious for monkey business these days, and there is no assurance (like did they do urine samples when HE won the national title--you would hope so or at least the entire podium but obviously not) that the people below him who now have the national titles were clean either, especially if one looks at well, better leave that one alone, but it reminds me of the irony of Ullrich and Basso getting booted and then look at all the surrounding riders who were right with them who continued to race on the full program.

Here is off a website where he is listed as a coach, I sure hope he is not a USACyclng coach or has any contact with juniors, as other fairly notorious now-busted riders have been.

"Peter Cannell is the founder and principal of Cannell Champion Training, a highly personalized coaching service that focuses on maximizing an athlete’s full potential through discipline and focus while balancing work and family life."

Highly Personalized indeed.
What is the trade name for drostanalone?

Masteron!

Get it?

MASTERon. for a busted masters rider. TOo perfect.
Cant make this stuff up!

And he not only tested positive but admitted prior use...
"USADA says that during the investigation, the 37-year-old cyclist from Mebane, N.C., acknowledged his previous use of an anabolic agent, leading to his competitive results since Feb. 6, 2007, being disqualified."
 
this_is_edie said:
a lot of masters were rumored to be on the Joe Papp list. I have no idea if this guy was but yes it is strange to see resources & money spent on testing masters.

If his name was a known commodity via Papp's bust it doesn't cost much to pop him. More importantly; confirmations of the level of USADA scrutiny could help the juniors this d*uchebag coaches from avoiding the same fate and is worth the money to this taxpayer. Frankly I'm happy to be considering participation in Bend's Master's Natz knowing the guys I'm racing might actually be clean.
 
Oldman said:
If his name was a known commodity via Papp's bust it doesn't cost much to pop him. More importantly; confirmations of the level of USADA scrutiny could help the juniors this d*uchebag coaches from avoiding the same fate and is worth the money to this taxpayer. Frankly I'm happy to be considering participation in Bend's Master's Natz knowing the guys I'm racing might actually be clean.

it would have been nice 20 years ago,too.:mad:
 
usedtobefast said:
it would have been nice 20 years ago,too.:mad:

Which is why I felt a little put upon over the last two decades when I lined up against 5- a)Montgomery Subaru Masters b)Motorola wannabe Masters c)USPS/Eddie B Masters d)Disco Masters e)Amgen Masters, etc all with either Eddie B, Och or Weisel in some contact. And at the same time young teammates trying to run that gauntlet through USA Cycling junior, senior and Olympic programs. The Mob was always in control, it seemed for those kids. At least Masters racers could do it for fun and chalk it up to whatever experience they could draw from it. There's no wonder that many Masters racers felt PEDs were the only "professional" path to a jersey and I guess the US is no different than Belgium, Italy, Spain, Columbia in that regard.
 
To some degree, you have to feel sorry for these total losers who dope to win some Masters race.

Then again, garbage like this Cannell guy are all over the place. I guess it's not all that unexpected given that cheaters like Tyler Hamilton are still pimping themselves out as coaches. Other cheaters see that and say, hey I can cheat and make a buck too. Freaking d-bags.

These tools can eat a big fat d. I hope they bust all these pieces of crap who were on Papp's list.
 
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Oldman said:
Which is why I felt a little put upon over the last two decades when I lined up against 5- a)Montgomery Subaru Masters b)Motorola wannabe Masters c)USPS/Eddie B Masters d)Disco Masters e)Amgen Masters, etc all with either Eddie B, Och or Weisel in some contact. And at the same time young teammates trying to run that gauntlet through USA Cycling junior, senior and Olympic programs. The Mob was always in control, it seemed for those kids. At least Masters racers could do it for fun and chalk it up to whatever experience they could draw from it. There's no wonder that many Masters racers felt PEDs were the only "professional" path to a jersey and I guess the US is no different than Belgium, Italy, Spain, Columbia in that regard.

The sport needs an enema
 
I think that they used info from Papp to target test him. They then probaby presented a non-analytic case with the positive test as the capstone that proved actual use of PEDs. I don't see another reason why he would admit to prior use dating back to 2007.
 

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Kennf1 said:
I'm somewhat amazed USADA is doing out-of-competition tests on amateurs (albeit national champion masters).

It is good they do. I will bet that guy they caught was quick, they might be masters but they are serious, it is good for the USDA to send a message.
 
Oldman said:
Which is why I felt a little put upon over the last two decades when I lined up against 5- a)Montgomery Subaru Masters b)Motorola wannabe Masters c)USPS/Eddie B Masters d)Disco Masters e)Amgen Masters, etc all with either Eddie B, Och or Weisel in some contact. And at the same time young teammates trying to run that gauntlet through USA Cycling junior, senior and Olympic programs. The Mob was always in control, it seemed for those kids. At least Masters racers could do it for fun and chalk it up to whatever experience they could draw from it. There's no wonder that many Masters racers felt PEDs were the only "professional" path to a jersey and I guess the US is no different than Belgium, Italy, Spain, Columbia in that regard.
yeah, crushing the guy who can barely train for a race, because of his job/family, really means a lot, huh? it is supposed to be fun, even if it is a sufferfest,at this point. winning and doing well is fun, but the Masters doping, is fing lame. and i understand why a professional is tempted, but masters? an overused phrase, 'get a life' ...sheesh!
 
usedtobefast said:
yeah, crushing the guy who can barely train for a race, because of his job/family, really means a lot, huh? it is supposed to be fun, even if it is a sufferfest,at this point. winning and doing well is fun, but the Masters doping, is fing lame. and i understand why a professional is tempted, but masters? an overused phrase, 'get a life' ...sheesh!

We're all probably in agreement on that. Pros have to struggle in a marginally legitmate sport to pay the bills and feed the...whatever. At least they have some real world pressures but mid-life crisis guys should be reliving a childhood, not creating their own reality. Whether it's riding a bike or playing virtual life on your laptop you better go outside and touch the ground you'll be buried in someday.
 
This may take the biscuit. Here is RBR's Toolhand's response to Cannel getting busted.

Toolhand said:
What a scumbag.

Yes. The guy who has defended Armstrong's dope use is upset that Masters are doing the same thing. This is a strange and fascinating disconnect. I really do not get it.
 
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BroDeal said:
This may take the biscuit. Here is RBR's Toolhand's response to Cannel getting busted.



Yes. The guy who has defended Armstrong's dope use is upset that Masters are doing the same thing. This is a strange and fascinating disconnect. I really do not get it.

He's probably somehow connected in Lance's crew like the posters on this forum who continue to defend him in the face of compelling evidence. That's why he has such an endearing nickname.
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
To some degree, you have to feel sorry for these total losers who dope to win some Masters race.

Then again, garbage like this Cannell guy are all over the place. I guess it's not all that unexpected given that cheaters like Tyler Hamilton are still pimping themselves out as coaches. Other cheaters see that and say, hey I can cheat and make a buck too. Freaking d-bags.

These tools can eat a big fat d. I hope they bust all these pieces of crap who were on Papp's list.

When I first started racing, I didn't ask any questions about the standing of certain riders. I saw guys that were not working all that much or at all. They were placing or winning races, got bikes, product, clothing and appeared to be pros, some placed in pro,1,2 races so I assumed they were pros.

This latest guy was a national jersey winner ,won and placed in big regional races. He had a coaching business because locals saw his results and wanted the knowledge and techniques that made him go fast. I find the fact that the clods USAC don't say that the coaching component of the guy's credentials are not ripped out of his wallet. If you get popped you should not be able to use the wheel,flag, wings emblem of the cycling fed.
The penalty for cheating should be at least doubled if you hold a USAC coaching or officiating license
I will bet if you asked all the cyclists in his area if he is a pro a couple dozen would say he is, sometimes a couple of dozens is all it takes
 
fatandfast said:
When I first started racing, I didn't ask any questions about the standing of certain riders. I saw guys that were not working all that much or at all. They were placing or winning races, got bikes, product, clothing and appeared to be pros, some placed in pro,1,2 races so I assumed they were pros.

This latest guy was a national jersey winner ,won and placed in big regional races. He had a coaching business because locals saw his results and wanted the knowledge and techniques that made him go fast. I find the fact that the clods USAC don't say that the coaching component of the guy's credentials are not ripped out of his wallet. If you get popped you should not be able to use the wheel,flag, wings emblem of the cycling fed.
The penalty for cheating should be at least doubled if you hold a USAC coaching or officiating license
I will bet if you asked all the cyclists in his area if he is a pro a couple dozen would say he is, sometimes a couple of dozens is all it takes

Which explains how deeply entrenched this behavior/business is in Europe with the UCI blessing. You're so right but it's hard to argue the point when Goldman Sachs execs are still claiming bonuses in this country. Who cares?
 

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Oldman said:
Which is why I felt a little put upon over the last two decades when I lined up against 5- a)Montgomery Subaru Masters b)Motorola wannabe Masters c)USPS/Eddie B Masters d)Disco Masters e)Amgen Masters, etc all with either Eddie B, Och or Weisel in some contact. And at the same time young teammates trying to run that gauntlet through USA Cycling junior, senior and Olympic programs. The Mob was always in control, it seemed for those kids. At least Masters racers could do it for fun and chalk it up to whatever experience they could draw from it. There's no wonder that many Masters racers felt PEDs were the only "professional" path to a jersey and I guess the US is no different than Belgium, Italy, Spain, Columbia in that regard.

You know what is scary, is that dude Cannel will be back in business in a couple of years.
 
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ericfalcon said:
I wonder why he skipped the test?

Yup, All 45 year old's have legs like that

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