Mighty impressive but i think a repeat of the Vuelta situation is plausible considering he lost Kelderman and Movistar is super strong.Normally he'll get the jersey with a decent gap,let's see if he can change the Dutch luck.
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One thing to add though. He never climbed this well in the Vuelta on such a climb. (on the short climbs yes, not on the longer ones). This is a totally different Dumoulin.DBotero said:
He's now without a team in the mountains.
Loss of Kelderman is serious blow.
Movistar will decimate him if needed.
Few movistar riders in a break, Quintana forces a gap on some short steep hill and Dumoulin is in trouble.
This one motorbike completely changed the dynamics of the race.
Loss of Kelderman is serious blow.
Movistar will decimate him if needed.
Few movistar riders in a break, Quintana forces a gap on some short steep hill and Dumoulin is in trouble.
This one motorbike completely changed the dynamics of the race.
Those numbers though... insane. With Quintana's weight being 57kg and Dumoulin 70. He has to put out nearly 100 watts more to even be in touch of him.
Losing Kelderman is a blow but not a disaster - What the team must do is make sure they put a rouleur type in the break every mountain day, who can help him Dumoulin, if their are splits.
I don't believe for a second that Quintana is 57kg. I'm guessing Dumoulin is under 70kg as well.
I'd translate what Dumoulin said in his interviews, but it's not exactly nice. He was competely pissed.
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Oh well, do it please. It's good to hear some rant about that motorbike incompetent.
Red Rick said:
Oh well, do it please. It's good to hear some rant about that motorbike incompetent.
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That would interest me too. I understand he said Mollema did nothing but wheel suck.
Red Rick said:
That would interest me too. I understand he said Mollema did nothing but wheel suck.
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Given that Mollema was dropped despite "wheelsucking", it's an odd thing to whine about. It's not as if Mollema was actually super strong, sat on Tom's wheel and then mugged him with a big attack. Mollema was on his limit and held on as long as he could.
Susan Westemeyer said:
Given that Mollema was dropped despite "wheelsucking", it's an odd thing to whine about. It's not as if Mollema was actually super strong, sat on Tom's wheel and then mugged him with a big attack. Mollema was on his limit and held on as long as he could.
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Anyway, Dumoulin
didn't have mixed feelings, it was complete ***
He wasn't surprised about riding well.
Kelderman was riding really well, 'top 10 here for sure'. Would've been top 10
They couldn't do anything about the moto, Dumoulin can't believe it. Called him a '***' and a 'mongoloid' in his first interview after the finish I think
He's not really taking positives from this. He was mostly describing the situation with various words for genitalia
Mollema admitted he didn't do anything and that Dumoulin was stronger today.Susan Westemeyer said:
Anyway, Dumoulin
didn't have mixed feelings, it was complete ***
He wasn't surprised about riding well.
Kelderman was riding really well, 'top 10 here for sure'. Would've been top 10
They couldn't do anything about the moto, Dumoulin can't believe it. Called him a '***' and a 'mongoloid' in his first interview after the finish I think
He's not really taking positives from this. He was mostly describing the situation with various words for genitalia
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I'm sick of contadors, quintanas, etc they are so boring in interviews... cycling needs bad boys, cycling needs cav "the whiner", cycling needs guys like vino, cippo or di luca. Oh man,how i miss these old school riders
I just love the guyRed Rick said:
I'm sick of contadors, quintanas, etc they are so boring in interviews... cycling needs bad boys, cycling needs cav "the whiner", cycling needs guys like vino, cippo or di luca. Oh man,how i miss these old school riders
I'm really looking forward to see his TT. At first I thought his TT ability should take a drop-off. But if what D_T says is true, maybe we can expect a monster performance by him on Tuesday. Hopefully he smashes the ITT.
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That's what I'm betting on. This stage has a similar length and profile as the tour de france stage 13 from last year and Dumoulin got over 3 minutes on Quintana. With another 30k later on in the tour there is a chance Dumoulin might manage to grab 5 minutes total on him.
Any chance he can hold his losses on the mountains to under that?
johnymax said:
That's what I'm betting on. This stage has a similar length and profile as the tour de france stage 13 from last year and Dumoulin got over 3 minutes on Quintana. With another 30k later on in the tour there is a chance Dumoulin might manage to grab 5 minutes total on him.
Any chance he can hold his losses on the mountains to under that?
It's not really as hard as the Tour TT. The height profiles are a big exaggerated. Gradients rarely go over 3% I think
Really impressed yesterday. He looked totally in control, like he exactly knew what his pace needed to be. Monster performance.
He's gonna smash the TT. Movistar better have a nice strategy for the third week.
He's gonna smash the TT. Movistar better have a nice strategy for the third week.
I'm impressed. He's climbing better than ever.
Let's see how big of a margin he'll have after the ITT.
Let's see how big of a margin he'll have after the ITT.
I'm really afraid that Dumoulin has lost his whole TT strength due to his transformation and doesn't even take the pink jersey tomorrow. That would be so frustrating
I think Dumoulin will TT just fine again this year. In Tirreno he put nearly 20 seconds into Quintana in 10km. Obviously last big head-to-head ITT for him was last Tour de France and put 3 minutes into him over 37km rolling, 50 seconds in 17km mountain ITT.
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Dutchies moaning about each other? Reminds me a bit of their 70s football team
Zinoviev Letter said:
Dutchies moaning about each other? Reminds me a bit of their 70s football team
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