Teams & Riders Tom Dumoulin discussion thread

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Mighty impressive but i think a repeat of the Vuelta situation is plausible considering he lost Kelderman and Movistar is super strong.Normally he'll get the jersey with a decent gap,let's see if he can change the Dutch luck.
 
Apr 30, 2011
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jsem94 said:
He will be in pink tomorrow. Losing less than 30 seconds on the best climber in the world on a climb like this. He can do some major damage in this Giro.
Only if the vampires slay Nairo.
 
Mar 13, 2009
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DBotero said:
Mighty impressive but i think a repeat of the Vuelta situation is plausible considering he lost Kelderman and Movistar is super strong.Normally he'll get the jersey with a decent gap,let's see if he can change the Dutch luck.
One thing to add though. He never climbed this well in the Vuelta on such a climb. (on the short climbs yes, not on the longer ones). This is a totally different Dumoulin.
 
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Well, his team isn't as bad as you say, Geschke, Ten Dam and Preidler are decent.
 
Mar 26, 2017
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He's now without a team in the mountains.
Loss of Kelderman is serious blow.

Movistar will decimate him if needed.
Few movistar riders in a break, Quintana forces a gap on some short steep hill and Dumoulin is in trouble.

This one motorbike completely changed the dynamics of the race.
 
Mar 13, 2009
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Those numbers though... insane. With Quintana's weight being 57kg and Dumoulin 70. He has to put out nearly 100 watts more to even be in touch of him.
 
Jun 20, 2015
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Losing Kelderman is a blow but not a disaster - What the team must do is make sure they put a rouleur type in the break every mountain day, who can help him Dumoulin, if their are splits.
 
Feb 20, 2012
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I don't believe for a second that Quintana is 57kg. I'm guessing Dumoulin is under 70kg as well.
 
Feb 20, 2012
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I'd translate what Dumoulin said in his interviews, but it's not exactly nice. He was competely pissed.
 
May 19, 2014
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Red Rick said:
I'd translate what Dumoulin said in his interviews, but it's not exactly nice. He was competely pissed.

Oh well, do it please. It's good to hear some rant about that motorbike incompetent.
 
Aug 18, 2010
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Susan Westemeyer said:
Red Rick said:
I'd translate what Dumoulin said in his interviews, but it's not exactly nice. He was competely pissed.

That would interest me too. I understand he said Mollema did nothing but wheel suck.

Given that Mollema was dropped despite "wheelsucking", it's an odd thing to whine about. It's not as if Mollema was actually super strong, sat on Tom's wheel and then mugged him with a big attack. Mollema was on his limit and held on as long as he could.
 
Feb 20, 2012
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Susan Westemeyer said:
Red Rick said:
I'd translate what Dumoulin said in his interviews, but it's not exactly nice. He was competely pissed.

That would interest me too. I understand he said Mollema did nothing but wheel suck.
Mollema admitted he didn't do anything and that Dumoulin was stronger today.

Anyway, Dumoulin

didn't have mixed feelings, it was complete ***

He wasn't surprised about riding well.

Kelderman was riding really well, 'top 10 here for sure'. Would've been top 10

They couldn't do anything about the moto, Dumoulin can't believe it. Called him a '***' and a 'mongoloid' in his first interview after the finish I think

He's not really taking positives from this. He was mostly describing the situation with various words for genitalia
 
Aug 6, 2015
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Red Rick said:
Susan Westemeyer said:
Red Rick said:
I'd translate what Dumoulin said in his interviews, but it's not exactly nice. He was competely pissed.

That would interest me too. I understand he said Mollema did nothing but wheel suck.
Mollema admitted he didn't do anything and that Dumoulin was stronger today.

Anyway, Dumoulin

didn't have mixed feelings, it was complete ****

He wasn't surprised about riding well.

Kelderman was riding really well, 'top 10 here for sure'. Would've been top 10

They couldn't do anything about the moto, Dumoulin can't believe it. Called him a '****' and a 'mongoloid' in his first interview after the finish I think

He's not really taking positives from this. He was mostly describing the situation with various words for genitalia
I just love the guy :D
I'm sick of contadors, quintanas, etc they are so boring in interviews... cycling needs bad boys, cycling needs cav "the whiner", cycling needs guys like vino, cippo or di luca. Oh man,how i miss these old school riders :(
 
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I'm really looking forward to see his TT. At first I thought his TT ability should take a drop-off. But if what D_T says is true, maybe we can expect a monster performance by him on Tuesday. Hopefully he smashes the ITT.
 
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johnymax said:
I'm really looking forward to see his TT. At first I thought his TT ability should take a drop-off. But if what D_T says is true, maybe we can expect a monster performance by him on Tuesday. Hopefully he smashes the ITT.

That's what I'm betting on. This stage has a similar length and profile as the tour de france stage 13 from last year and Dumoulin got over 3 minutes on Quintana. With another 30k later on in the tour there is a chance Dumoulin might manage to grab 5 minutes total on him.

Any chance he can hold his losses on the mountains to under that?
 
Feb 20, 2012
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It's not really as hard as the Tour TT. The height profiles are a big exaggerated. Gradients rarely go over 3% I think
 
Sep 2, 2011
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Really impressed yesterday. He looked totally in control, like he exactly knew what his pace needed to be. Monster performance.

He's gonna smash the TT. Movistar better have a nice strategy for the third week.
 
Sep 2, 2011
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I'm impressed. He's climbing better than ever.
Let's see how big of a margin he'll have after the ITT.
 
Feb 18, 2015
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I'm really afraid that Dumoulin has lost his whole TT strength due to his transformation and doesn't even take the pink jersey tomorrow. That would be so frustrating
 
Mar 13, 2013
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I think Dumoulin will TT just fine again this year. In Tirreno he put nearly 20 seconds into Quintana in 10km. Obviously last big head-to-head ITT for him was last Tour de France and put 3 minutes into him over 37km rolling, 50 seconds in 17km mountain ITT.
 
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Zinoviev Letter said:
Susan Westemeyer said:
Red Rick said:
I'd translate what Dumoulin said in his interviews, but it's not exactly nice. He was competely pissed.

That would interest me too. I understand he said Mollema did nothing but wheel suck.

Given that Mollema was dropped despite "wheelsucking", it's an odd thing to whine about. It's not as if Mollema was actually super strong, sat on Tom's wheel and then mugged him with a big attack. Mollema was on his limit and held on as long as he could.

Dutchies moaning about each other? Reminds me a bit of their 70s football team :D
 

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