Teams & Riders Tom Dumoulin discussion thread

[Red Rick]

https://www.indeleiderstrui.nl/nieuws/algemeen-nieuws/236050/tutto-bici-dumoulin-overweegt-serieus-zijn-toekomst-en-vertrek-bij-sunweb

Dumoulin considering breaking contract with Sunweb and leaving the team.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

*according to Tutto Bicci Web..

No idea what their source is

 

[yaco]

Watch Team Ineos swoop and grab Dumoulin.

 

[MatParker117]

Get the chequebook Dave.

 

[movingtarget]

For the money Dumoulin would demand I doubt there would be many teams that could take him. Trek have signed Nibali, and Porte has another year on his contract. Don't know if Astana could afford him. Movistar will probably sign Mas. Michelton could probably sign him but they would have let the Yates bros go to do it probably. Not sure what their contract situation is. Think they both got extended.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

well with Nibali gone at Bahrein couldn't Dumoulin provide a suitable replacement?

 

[Red Rick]

Haven't heard many good things about Bahrein TT bikes tho

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

well if you go by TT bike there isn't much choice.
ineos, Jumbo and Quick Step probably

 

[kiszol]

Well considering how Sunweb was unable to give him proper mountain support for years I wouldn't be surprised if he would leave them. The handling of his knee injury obviously worsens the situation too. There are two main questions to ponder on:

1) How expensive breaking the contract is? What price has Doumolin have to pay should he leave now? He still has 2 or 3 years left of his contract.
2) Which teams needs him and could afford him (also considering the price mentioned in 1)?

As for 1 I have no idea but as far as I know Dumoulin's salary isn't that high (around 2 million €?) so the fee for breaking his contract is probably not that high either.

As for 2 I think Astana, Bahrain, INEOS, BORA, UAE, DD, Lotto, CCC and Katusha would consider signing him. From these teams I think Astana, Bahrain, INEOS, UAE and maybe Katusha could afford him. Astana has proper GC riders in Lopez and Fuglsang so I don't think they would offer a serious bid. So like it or not as I see it it's between Bahrain, INEOS and UAE.

As for INEOS they could definitely afford him but they don't really need him. However as Dumoulin is arguably the biggest threat to INEOS in the GCs they might sign him just to strengthen their position immensely. On the other hand Tom wouldn't go to INEOS in my opinion as he values success higher than money and with INEOS it's highly probable that he wouldn't be able to ride for the GC in the TDF for the next 1-2 years despite that it should be his main target from now on.

So I think Bahrain is the most likely option besides staying at Sunweb for one more year.

 

[Red Rick]

Could be that Corendon steps for Dumoulin if they want to go WT.

 

[movingtarget]

Re:

well if you go by TT bike there isn't much choice.
ineos, Jumbo and Quick Step probably

Quick Step would make sense if he was riding the classics otherwise Ineos and Jumbo and maybe Astana. Not sure what is going on with Bahrein, they didn't want to extend Nibali.

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

well if you go by TT bike there isn't much choice.
ineos, Jumbo and Quick Step probably

Quick Step would make sense if he was riding the classics otherwise Ineos and Jumbo and maybe Astana. Not sure what is going on with Bahrein, they didn't want to extend Nibali.

Quick Step don't have the money. They're letting Mas go cause he's getting too expensive, buying Dumoulin out isn't something they'll do.

Could be Bahrein want Nibali to target the Tour and Nibali doesn't want to/Nibali asks too much money. Nibs probably makes more than Dumoulin even though he really shouldn't.

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

You do realize Nibali signed for Trek?

 

[Red Rick]

Re:

You do realize Nibali signed for Trek?

I'm saying that might have been the reason why Bahrain and Nibali didn't get a deal for a renewal.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Re: Re:

well if you go by TT bike there isn't much choice.
ineos, Jumbo and Quick Step probably

Quick Step would make sense if he was riding the classics otherwise Ineos and Jumbo and maybe Astana. Not sure what is going on with Bahrein, they didn't want to extend Nibali.

Quick Step don't have the money. They're letting Mas go cause he's getting too expensive, buying Dumoulin out isn't something they'll do.

Could be Bahrein want Nibali to target the Tour and Nibali doesn't want to/Nibali asks too much money. Nibs probably makes more than Dumoulin even though he really shouldn't.

Lefevre doesn't want to overpay. Doesn't mean he doesn't have the money. He's always bitching about it, doesn't mean it's true. If Deceuninck wants to cross the border, it might be a good investment. Evenepoel could learn from him, and if they really want to keep Remco and nurish him into a GT rider, they need to prep the team anyway.

 

[Winnen]

A Dutch newspaper (AD) writes today that Tom is transferring tot Jumbo-Visma. Interesting move if it is true.

 

[Kwibus]

Re:

A Dutch newspaper (AD) writes today that Tom is transferring tot Jumbo-Visma. Interesting move if it is true.

Not sure if Roglic and Kruis wil approve, somehow I cant believe this.

 

[Robert5091]

Re:

A Dutch newspaper (AD) writes today that Tom is transferring tot Jumbo-Visma. Interesting move if it is true.

Be one hell of a TTT-team if true.

 

[jaylew]

Re:

A Dutch newspaper (AD) writes today that Tom is transferring tot Jumbo-Visma. Interesting move if it is true.

Source?

I did see something about him going to Direct Energie. No idea how credible it is:

https://www.cyclist.co.uk/news/6653/tom-dumoulin-in-talks-with-total-direct-energie-reports-suggest

 

[Winnen]

Re: Re:

A Dutch newspaper (AD) writes today that Tom is transferring tot Jumbo-Visma. Interesting move if it is true.

Source?

Source:
https://www.ad.nl/wielrennen/huwelijk-met-sunweb-strandt-dumoulin-op-weg-naar-jumbo-visma~a44874db/

 

[Red Rick]

Re: Re:

A Dutch newspaper (AD) writes today that Tom is transferring tot Jumbo-Visma. Interesting move if it is true.

Source?

Source:
https://www.ad.nl/wielrennen/huwelijk-met-sunweb-strandt-dumoulin-op-weg-naar-jumbo-visma~a44874db/

They're mentioning a gentlemen's agreement with Sunweb. I have no idea why Sunweb would let Dumoulin go. Also no mention of if it's an immediate thing or for 2020.

Gonna guess Kruijswijk is the biggest loser in that exchange. Roglic only if they can't manage to share leadership

 

[Cinemaniak]

Re: Re:

A Dutch newspaper (AD) writes today that Tom is transferring tot Jumbo-Visma. Interesting move if it is true.

Source?

Source:
https://www.ad.nl/wielrennen/huwelijk-met-sunweb-strandt-dumoulin-op-weg-naar-jumbo-visma~a44874db/

They're mentioning a gentlemen's agreement with Sunweb. I have no idea why Sunweb would let Dumoulin go. Also no mention of if it's an immediate thing or for 2020.

Gonna guess Kruijswijk is the biggest loser in that exchange. Roglic only if they can't manage to share leadership

Roglic and Dumoulin would be a scary combination tho.. Add Kruijswijk, Bennett, WvA and De Plus to the mix and make it Team Ineos' biggest nightmare.

 

[glassmoon]

Re:

A Dutch newspaper (AD) writes today that Tom is transferring tot Jumbo-Visma. Interesting move if it is true.

Well... considering that Roglic (team car) pissing incident and weird tactics that team doesn't really ooze with professionalism
(provided that lack of professionalism is the reason Tom's leaving Sunweb)
But that team would look very impressive on the paper though.

 

[movingtarget]

Re: Re:

A Dutch newspaper (AD) writes today that Tom is transferring tot Jumbo-Visma. Interesting move if it is true.

Source?

Source:
https://www.ad.nl/wielrennen/huwelijk-met-sunweb-strandt-dumoulin-op-weg-naar-jumbo-visma~a44874db/

They're mentioning a gentlemen's agreement with Sunweb. I have no idea why Sunweb would let Dumoulin go. Also no mention of if it's an immediate thing or for 2020.

Gonna guess Kruijswijk is the biggest loser in that exchange. Roglic only if they can't manage to share leadership

Still three grand tours to share but the Tour looks like co-leadership otherwise they become Movistar.........

 

[Lexman]

https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20190703_04491589

article based on AD but this one mentions that in De Telegraaf other teams interested in Dumoulin are : Team Ineos, CCC, UAE-Emirates, Total Direct Energie but in De telegraaf Dumoulin denies he's changing teams...