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airstream said:Its hard to predict who will be stronger in TT. Are you sure Contador could have done the better Grenoble TT if he didnt go to the Giro? - I'm not. Plus Evans is unlikely to ride one more chrono at this level. How much time can Contador gain in the mountains, if after stage 9 it will clear up he has to? la toussuire and the Peyragudes are not steep enough to try to fly on them even for Contador. Evans is not Nibali or Scarponi. He sticks to opponent like a tick. Very very hard to drop him on 5-6%. It will be a very complicated task.
apmfbs said:Contador´s best performances have been in climbs such as arcalis, verbier, montagne de lure, etna,.....manyof them are not tough climbs.
In relation to ITT, I think Contador is not worse than Evan in a short ITT ( 38 KM).....................and at the end of the tour who knows.........sastre kept the advantege with evans in a long ITT and he was worse than alberto
airstream said:But Contador never did really good plain 50k ТТ which is very likely to be on stage 20.
airstream said:But Contador never did really good plain 50k ТТ which is very likely to be on stage 20.
The Hitch said:And Evans has?
airstream said:Both TT's in 07,. Im sure, on the plain Evans' power and strength have to come out. He just pushes the air using heavier gears.
roundabout said:Contador lost the Dauphine TT to Evans a couple of years back. And a minute over the rest on 2 stages is a bit optimistic even with Contador liking 20 minute climbs
Edit: 3 stages, forgot the prologue
apmfbs said:Besides the topic of the ITT, I think Cadel shoul try to attack in the way to boulogne or porrentruy ( as he did in montalcino with vino in 2010), because I think Alberto will overcame or increase the possible deficit of time in the mountains ( I mean enogh time for the last ITT of 52 km)
Its a very common reasoning because Contador initially has been a TT specialist especially for not long distance whereas Evans developed in this discipline very consistently. I mean if Contador has got more victories it unnecessarily characterizes him as the stronger TT'er in the context of Le Tour.The Hitch said:I do agree that Cadel has more power on the flat. Contador just has a better tt position. Thats why 1 of them has 15 tt victories and the other just 2.
apmfbs said:Besides the topic of the ITT, I think Cadel shoul try to attack in the way to boulogne or porrentruy ( as he did in montalcino with vino in 2010), because I think Alberto will overcame or increase the possible deficit of time in the mountains ( I mean enogh time for the last ITT of 52 km)
Spaniard said:wow, Evans don't even consider Contador as a top rival for TDF 2012.
http://www.marca.com/2011/10/19/ciclismo/tour_francia/1319034230.html
He put Wiggins, Martin, Leipheimer and Andy as the dark horses. I read many senseless things in his words.
just some guy said:Before everyone goes bonkers can we have it confirmed - ie anyone read the original piece.
If he did say it how it reads above wow just crazy.
The Hitch said:Yeah, as I said in the other thread this was posted in, I think hes gone mad.
If, as jsg says, he really did say it.
its one thing to write of Contador because you dont think hell be there.
Its another to argue that because he didnt win the Tour this year, he is going to lose to Wiggins and Leipheimer and Martin, next year.
roundabout said:Discounting Contador is mighty stupid unless something got lost in translation.
“For me, and a few other time trialists, I think it’s open for riders like (Bradley) Wiggins and (Levi) Leipheimer. (Alberto) Contador is also a favorite. In his first victory, there were over 100km of time trials in that year. There are not too many mountaintop finishes, but the mountain stages will be intense and important.”
just some guy said:Confident Cadel Evans focused on defending Tour de France title
Maybe lost in translation although again not the original
auscyclefan94 said:Interesting, I am called out when I 'misinterpret' (according to some) Contador's comments but when Cadel says something about AC, the Contador fanboys such as Hitch & Spaniard take it completely out of context post silly comments.
auscyclefan94 said:Interesting, I am called out when I 'misinterpret' (according to some) Contador's comments but when Cadel says something about AC, the Contador fanboys such as Hitch & Spaniard take it completely out of context post silly comments.