Tour 2012: Route Rumours / Our wishes

[roundabout]

You say mental war, I say he is being full of **** as usual.

And I am sure Schleck doesn't need Contrador to tell him what his chances in the tOUR are.

 

[auscyclefan94]

what's odd about that? let's translate: "since i'll hardly lose any time to cadel in TTs, it's up to me to drop him in the mountains. which is nice."

He said the same about Michele Scarponi at the Giro this year. He destroyed him with 7 minutes.

I more meant that he is saying some things which contradict themselves but I do see that is merely mind games.

He and Riis have started the mental war though. On 2 fronts Putting pressure on Evans and letting Andy know he has dropped down the order for now.

And what is such statements going to acheive?

 

[El Pistolero]

I more meant that he is saying some things which contradict themselves but I do see that is merely mind games.


And what is such statements going to acheive?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWdLt3Afjrg

 

[auscyclefan94]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BWdLt3Afjrg

Having a link to a song sung by Freddie Mercury does not add weight to an argument

 

[The Hitch]

The ASO **** me off so much as I watch the presentation (which dim sent me).

I see them as an evil organisation. They talk about spreading the sport with Beijing and Quatar and Cali. We can see who profits from the Lombardia disgrace and who is behind attempts to destroy the other 2 grand tours.

in their Tour 2011 video they use the commentary of Ligget. The dumbest person in cycling. ****ing use your own commentary not this ****.

I really want someone to stick it to them.

Contador is the obvious candidate. They despise him.

Watching the 2011 Tour recap vid from the presentation it seems to me that ASO are declaring war on Contador.

They deliberately choose images that do not have Contador in them (ie when he is either just in front or just behind the camera width) when showing the heads of states up mountains.

They do not show any of his attacks. They show the heads of state come in, on the 2 stages where Contador was dropped - Luz and Galibier, but do not show these pictures on Plateau, Gap, Pinerolo or Alpe as Contador would have appeared on camera.

They do not even show him attacking on the stage he made, just show VOeckler throwing his bottle.

They do show Contador twice in the entire film

The first is him being beaten by Evans.
The second is him getting dropped on Galibier.

A big **** you to Contador.



I hope he sticks it up their ***

 

[McLovin]

Contador is the obvious candidate. They despise him.

now tell me baby are you wet? pa ram pam pam pam pam pam

take it easy! they did same with landis in october 06, (or worse, with his picture breaking like a mirror) and probably they will do the same in the future with any tour winner found positive beacuse of epo, blood, beef, kentuky fried chicken, big mac, banana split or anything is possible and not possible .
Take it as a respect gesture for any rider who rode clean. Sorry, I know it's not the clinic.

 

[virandociclista]

Next year AC will crush this tour!

 

[The Hitch]

Take it as a respect gesture for any rider who rode clean. Sorry, I know it's not the clinic.

Who rode clean? Please do enter the clinic and tell me. I wish your type entered the clinic more often?

I understand the doping excuse, but ASO didnt care much about doping while they were riding the Armstrong cow to new popularity.

They also dont mind Schleck.

Its something special about Contador that has people remember him leaving Schleck on Bagneres de Lucheon, but not Schleck screwing him in Arenberg, that has people boo him at the presentation etc.

 

[Thomsena]

Next year AC will crush this tour!

Without a doubt.

 

[McLovin]

Who rode clean? Please do enter the clinic and tell me. I wish your type entered the clinic more often?

I hope Cunego, Linus, Hagen, Voigt, Martin and maybe Tejay, from top 100. One is enoug to not put a 'fish' on the cover of the Tour.


Is it just me or sometimes the forum is loading slow to very slow?

 

[The Hitch]

Without a doubt.

I dont think he will be there though.

 

[Thomsena]

I dont think he will be there though.

I'll torture a swan if he's not. That should end this case.

 

[Spaniard]

wow, Evans don't even consider Contador as a top rival for TDF 2012.

http://www.marca.com/2011/10/19/ciclismo/tour_francia/1319034230.html

He put Wiggins, Martin, Leipheimer and Andy as the dark horses. I read many senseless things in his words.

 

[just some guy]

wow, Evans don't even consider Contador as a top rival for TDF 2012.

http://www.marca.com/2011/10/19/ciclismo/tour_francia/1319034230.html

He put Wiggins, Martin, Leipheimer and Andy as the dark horses. I read many senseless things in his words.

Before everyone goes bonkers can we have it confirmed - ie anyone read the original piece.

If he did say it how it reads above wow just crazy.

 

[The Hitch]

wow, Evans don't even consider Contador as a top rival for TDF 2012.

http://www.marca.com/2011/10/19/ciclismo/tour_francia/1319034230.html

He put Wiggins, Martin, Leipheimer and Andy as the dark horses. I read many senseless things in his words.

Yeah, as I said in the other thread this was posted in, I think hes gone mad.

If, as jsg says, he really did say it.

its one thing to write of Contador because you dont think hell be there.

Its another to argue that because he didnt win the Tour this year, he is going to lose to Wiggins and Leipheimer and Martin, next year.

 

[apmfbs]

If Cadel thinks Contador has no option to win tour 2012 he is making a bigmistake.
Contador is not worse than cadel in ITT ( SPECIALLY in short ones, like 38 kms ) and even this is not a very mountainous tour, Contador will advantage him in Planche, toussuire, and peyragudes ( if he needs )..........

 

[roundabout]

Discounting Contador is mighty stupid unless something got lost in translation.

 

[airstream]

Its hard to predict who will be stronger in TT. Are you sure Contador could have done the better Grenoble TT if he didnt go to the Giro? - I'm not. Plus Evans is unlikely to ride one more chrono at this level. How much time can Contador gain in the mountains, if after stage 9 it will clear up he has to? la toussuire and the Peyragudes are not steep enough to try to fly on them even for Contador. Evans is not Nibali or Scarponi. He sticks to opponent like a tick. Very very hard to drop him on 5-6%. It will be a very complicated task.

 

[Spaniard]

Its hard to predict who will be stronger in TT. Are you sure Contador could have done the better Grenoble TT if he didnt go to the Giro? - I'm not. Plus Evans is unlikely to ride one more chrono at this level. How much time can Contador gain in the mountains, if after stage 9 it will clear up he has to? La Tossouire and the Peyragudes are not steep enough to try to fly on them even for Contador. Evans is not Nibali or Scarponi. He sticks to opponent like a tick. Very very hard to drop him on 5-6%. It will be a very complicated task.

Giro could affect, but its not the main problem. Contador was wasted with the day before after the 90km attack and the most important he didn't have the pressure to win , by other hand Cadel was totally under pressure, he was fighting for the general¡, I think that gives you wings.

Another point is the recovery skills, that will be a big factor in the last TT.

 

[airstream]

Giro could affect, but its not the main problem. Contador was wasted with the day before after the 90km attack and the most important he didn't have the pressure to win , by other hand Cadel was totally under pressure, he was fighting for the general¡, I think that gives you wings.

Another point is the recovery skills, that will be a big factor in the last TT.

You're right. But I doubt Evans wasted much less energy on that stage, considering all his misadventures.

 

[The Hitch]

You're right. But I doubt Evans wasted much less energy on that stage, considering all his misadventures.

Thats not how I remember that stage.

On 19 Cadel followed Contador Schleck for about 10% of their time out front (spending less effort than Contador who was in front pushing the pace), then went back to the peloton after the mechanical and stayed there for the rest of the stage while Andy and Contador spent half the day out front pushing a higher pace.

Contador then attacked again on Alpe, stayed out on his own until 1.5k to the end when Samu brought Rolland to him, and they both left Contador.

Cadel just stayed with a very tired Andy Schleck.

He did spend more effort the day before though.

 

[just some guy]

Thats not how I remember that stage.

On 19 Cadel followed Contador Schleck for about 10% of their time out front (spending less effort than Contador who was in front pushing the pace), then went back to the peloton after the mechanical and stayed there for the rest of the stage while Andy and Contador spent half the day out front pushing a higher pace.

Contador then attacked again on Alpe, stayed out on his own until 1.5k to the end when Samu brought Rolland to him, and they both left Contador.

Cadel just stayed with a very tired Andy Schleck.

He did spend more effort the day before though.

you missed the bit where Evans decided that enough was enough and started dragging the group along himself and just before the top of the climb I forget the name Sammy attacked and descended hard to catch the Contador group, mean while Evans was riding in front of the group which then had help from FDJ mainly Roy to catch the lead riders who then all sat up

Bidsong lead into the Alpe Evans road hard onto the climb with 1 team mate who blew up then we had the final climb

 

[roundabout]

Evans was the one doing the chasing on the Galibier after BMC ran out of helpers and closed over a minute on Contador/Schleck by himself.

 

[McLovin]

stop fighting. go to cyclingtorrents and see who and what.

 

[Papparrazzi]

Dauphiné Liberé paper re; the Belgian Stages.

Not too supportive -
http://www.microsofttranslator.com/bv.aspx?from=&to=en&a=http://www.ledauphine.com/sport/cyclisme