Tour 2014 Route Rumours

[Cimber]

We the shortest route by road is 50km and it looks like they are taking a slightly longer route of I'm guess nearly 60km

54 km it seems



http://www.biciciclismo.com/cas/site/noticias-ficha.asp?id=66739

Las 21 etapas:

Sábado 5 julio. Etapa 1: Leeds - Harrogate, 191 kms
Domingo 6 julio. Etapa 2: York - Sheffield, 198 kms
Lunes 7 julio. Etapa 3: Cambridge - Londres, 159 kms
Martes 8 julio. Etapa 4: Le Touquet-Paris-Plote - Lille, 164 kms
Miércoles 9 julio. Etapa 5: Ypres - Arenberg Porte du Hainaut, 156 kms
Jueves 10 julio. Etapa 6: Arros - Reims, 194 kms
Viernes 11 julio. Etapa 7: Épernay - Nancy, 233 kms
Sábado 12 julio. Etapa 8: Tomblaine - Gérardmer, 161 kms
Domingo 13 julio. Etapa 9: Gérardmer - Mulhouse, 166 kms
Lunes 14 julio. Etapa 10: Mulhouse - La Planche des Belles Filles, 161 kms Final en alto
Martes 15 julio. Descanso

Miércoles 16 julio. Etapa 11: Besançon - Oyonnax, 186 kms
Jueves 17 julio. Etapa 12: Bourg-en-Bresse - Saint-Étienne, 183 kms
Viernes 18 julio. Etapa 13: Saint-Étienne - Chamrousse, 200 kms Final en alto
Sábado 19 julio. Etapa 14: Grenoble - Risoul, 177 kms Final en alto
Domingo 20 julio. Etapa 15: Tallard - Nimes, 222 kms
Lunes 21 julio. Descanso

Martes 22 julio. Etapa 16: Carcassonne - Bagnères-de-Luchon, 237 kms
Miércoles 23 julio. Etapa 17: Saint-Gaudens - Saint-Lary-Soulon (Pla d'Adet), 125 kms Final en alto
Jueves 24 julio. Etapa 18: Pau - Hautacam, 145 kms Final en alto
Viernes 25 julio. Etapa 19: Maubourguet Pays du Val d'Adour - Bergerac, 208 kms.
Sábado 26 julio. Etapa 20: Bergerac - Périgueux, 54 kms CRI
Domingo 27 julio. Etapa 21: Évry - París Campos Elíseos, 136 kms
Total: 3.656 kms

 

[Eshnar]

Often the shorter stages offer more explosive riding. Its nice with a mix of short mountain stages as well as marathon mountain stages

marathon mountain stages? Where?

 

[Eshnar]

All the more reason!

it's not the Tourmalet

 

[McLovin]

Portillon, Peyresourde, Louron Azet and Adet. Short but nice stage.

 

[Ferminal]

Often the shorter stages offer more explosive riding. Its nice with a mix of short mountain stages as well as marathon mountain stages

I don't disagree, but why have two ultra short stages consecutively? And if you're going to make it short, why put in 50km of flat at the start. Short stages should be used to achieve an objective, say virtually no flat in the stage. Not to mention the longest distance to a climb in a stage is ~200km and that is really a single HC day, where is the balance in that?

 

[Cimber]

marathon mountain stages? Where?

There are at least 2 stages in the mountains of 200 km or longer as far as I can see. Of course they start falt but the KMs will still suck some energy out. However, I am still a fan of short mountain stages

 

[LaFlorecita]

Meh 54 flat tt km on the last real stage meh not cool really.

 

[LaFlorecita]

Am sure Riis would love if Contador could do something epic on that very stage for obvious historical reasons.

I would love it too

 

[fauniera]

Miércoles 23 julio. Etapa 17: Saint-Gaudens - Saint-Lary-Soulon (Pla d'Adet), 125 kms Final en alto
Jueves 24 julio. Etapa 18: Pau - Hautacam, 145 kms Final en alto

Ridiculous. Why am i always hoping for some nice stages? I should know better by now.

 

[Cimber]

I don't disagree, but why have two ultra short stages consecutively? And if you're going to make it short, why put in 50km of flat at the start. i.e. short stages should be used to achieve an objective, say virtually no flat in the stage.

Oh there a a number of reason for that. the depature city paying good, sponsors etc.

But a mix of long and short mountain stages are nice. However, I do like one or two mountain stages that actually start with a climb (like the one this year where Sky was totally dismantles for example)

 

[Eshnar]

There are at least 2 stages in the mountains of 200 km or longer as far as I can see. Of course they start falt but the KMs will still suck some energy out. However, I am still a fan of short mountain stages

Chamrousse is barely 200 km, which means it most likely will be one climb only. The Luchon stage is long, but it will probably have very little before Bales.

All in all it's one of the worst Tour of the last year, in terms of mountain stages. At least I hope the cobbles rumour is true, although my hopes aren't high.

 

[Ferminal]

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[Jan the Man]

What length is the ITT?, and also what is the build up to Chamrousse? Flat all the way in?

What length is the ITT?, and also what is the build up to Chamrousse? Flat all the way in?

The first it really depends on the road because it seems to start and finish at Mulhouse; at a guess it will be between 30-40km, it could also be hilly subject to the route.

Given the distance between the two it cannot really be less than 48km. The rumours say 50km.

 

[Cimber]

Meh 54 flat tt km on the last real stage meh not cool really.

Dont worry. It will be long enough for Contador to catch the advantage Andy and Nairo have after the mountains. Wiggo and Froome will both be in a ditch together with Fränk in the Arenberg region

 

[LaFlorecita]

Dont worry. It will be long enough for Contador to catch the advantage Andy and Nairo have after the mountains. Wiggo and Froome will both be in the ditch with Fränk in the Arenberg region

Nice, I like that

 

[McLovin]

The first it really depends on the road because it seems to start and finish at Mulhouse; at a guess it will be between 30-40km, it could also be hilly subject to the route.

Given the distance between the two it cannot really be less than 48km. The rumours say 50km.

What? Are you having an alternative route?

 

[Cimber]

The first it really depends on the road because it seems to start and finish at Mulhouse; at a guess it will be between 30-40km, it could also be hilly subject to the route.

Given the distance between the two it cannot really be less than 48km. The rumours say 50km.

its 54km (10 char)

 

[Eshnar]

The first it really depends on the road because it seems to start and finish at Mulhouse; at a guess it will be between 30-40km, it could also be hilly subject to the route.

Given the distance between the two it cannot really be less than 48km. The rumours say 50km.

there's only one TT...

 

[Cimber]

Chamrousse is barely 200 km, which means it most likely will be one climb only. The Luchon stage is long, but it will probably have very little before Bales.

All in all it's one of the worst Tour of the last year, in terms of mountain stages. At least I hope the cobbles rumour is true, although my hopes aren't high.

They are true. 9 sections too. Add rain and we got epic chaos.

Persoanlly, I like the cobbled stages, but I really dont want any favorites to down-right crash out though.

 

[18-Valve. (pithy)]

I don't disagree, but why have two ultra short stages consecutively? And if you're going to make it short, why put in 50km of flat at the start. Short stages should be used to achieve an objective, say virtually no flat in the stage. Not to mention the longest distance to a climb in a stage is ~200km and that is really a single HC day, where is the balance in that?

1) Pau.
2) Long, super hard mountain stages are probably a thing of the past. RCS and ASO have been moving in that direction for a while now.

 

[Eshnar]

They are true. 9 sections too. Add rain and we got epic chaos.

Persoanlly, I like the cobbled stages, but I really dont want any favorites to down-right crash out though.

I find really hard to believe they're gonna throw 9 sectors like that. Really hard.
Really.

 

[Eshnar]

1) Pau.
2) Long, super hard mountain stages are probably a thing of the past. RCS and ASO have been moving in that direction for a while now.

Good cycling is also a thing of the past sadly.
For the record, 2014 will be the first year the Giro doesn't have one of those. So they aren't heading in that direction for a while...

 

[Cimber]

Good cycling is also a thing of the past sadly.
For the record, 2014 will be the first year the Giro doesn't have one of those. So they aren't heading in that direction for a while...

Imo the Vuelta has shown that shorter mountain stages are often much better than the long ones, which often get dead-locked with a break.

 

[Jan the Man]

Sorry i looked at the map and thought there was a TT around Mulhouse!!

 

[Ferminal]

1) Pau.
2) Long, super hard mountain stages are probably a thing of the past. RCS and ASO have been moving in that direction for a while now.

Pau is understandable. I'd prefer the entry stage being an Ariege monster with Portillon, then Bales starting the next day (which would make it even shorter but almost on the false flat by the time they are out of neutral).