Tour de France 2011 Stage 9: Issoire - Saint-Flour 208 km

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Gingerale said:
if you have time, could you sum that up? my spanish is worse than my dutch!

thanks.

"I was having pain in my left knee and today I hit the same knee again, but now in the internal side of it. I hope that with ice and some rest I can recover" (the journalist indicates he has a bandage there)

"I had pain during the whole stage today"
 
Mar 10, 2009
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hrotha said:
I don't think ASO is to blame.
Perhaps I worded that a bit strong. However, the ASO is in charge of accrediting all the drivers that can drive within the riders. I suspect that there is a fairly close relationship between ASO and French TV, so much so that that car was not there on official responsibilities, rather for "aristocratic" privilege. Second, and more important, it is my understanding that no vehicle can pass an officials vehicle without that official's permission. Looking at the video, there are two such official vehicles immediately behind the break. Hence someone within ASO gave that French TV car permission to pass is what looks to be a particularly dangerous stretch of road.

Granted, it is the drivers fault, but ASO bears some responsibility for allowing that harrowing event to happen.
 
Sep 8, 2009
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Desperate Moments said:
VINO!!!!
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The Tour is over for me.

But I WILL stop watching if AC abandons. From what I've read, he is a really sweet guy, who wants to be liked; if so, he must really be bummed by the cold shoulder he seems to be getting from the peloton.

in those moments i felt that too.but it won't happen.i'm pretty sure alberto will abandon too but i'll still watch it,i still got basso there,i still got gilbert and tony martin,sammy and just like others said i will cheer for cadel against the schlecks.even it will be useless.
 
Aug 18, 2010
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Moose McKnuckles said:
Yep, it appears I was wrong to blame Karpets, as he looks to be innocent. I am happy to admit my mistake. :eek:


It just didn't make sense that Karpets, who has been pretty explicitly told that this is his last chance to prove he can lead a team, would risk getting thrown out for an act of thuggery. The fringe GC men are well aware that they aren't really in direct competition with the contenders for overall victory.

Screwing up a corner or accidentally veering into someone, sure that can happen. But the sheer pointlessness of putting the most famous rider in the race into a ditch, deliberately, for no obvious benefit should really have made people a bit more sceptical.
 
May 20, 2009
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Gingerale said:
if you have time, could you sum that up? my spanish is worse than my dutch!

thanks.

"I dragged pain throughout the stage," he said. The cyclist said he caught the handlebars of your bike with the saddle of another rider and that propelled him to the side of the road where he crashed with some spectators'"

This must be the Karpets incident...
 
Feb 20, 2010
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peacefultribe said:
Oy, what a terrible day. If Contador has a knee injury, and isn't 100%, I may not be able to follow the rest of this Tour. The only GC contenders left are the ones that I don't care for.

At a recent Grand Tour, after the first week being filled with crashes left right and centre, carnage, chaos, major contenders having to drop out, others losing time, some of which wasn't their fault, and a TTT skewing things, I looked at the GC after one week and announced that I was sick of the race and that the GC battle was going to be a straight two-up fight between two riders I didn't like.

That race was the 2010 Giro d'Italia.

We have hope yet.
 
Mar 11, 2010
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Gavia Pass said:
So you stopped watching them "a long time ago" but what they are doing now makes you "sad". Exactly how do you know what they are doing now if you haven't watched them in "a long time". That makes ZERO sense.

Brilliant observation Gavia. It was quite bad in 2009, and the bit that I watched in 2010. I haven't watched Versus coverage of any race in a long time. I will be sure to tune in on Tuesday.........
 
Mar 11, 2010
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Libertine Seguros said:
At a recent Grand Tour, after the first week being filled with crashes left right and centre, carnage, chaos, major contenders having to drop out, others losing time, some of which wasn't their fault, and a TTT skewing things, I looked at the GC after one week and announced that I was sick of the race and that the GC battle was going to be a straight two-up fight between two riders I didn't like.

That race was the 2010 Giro d'Italia.

We have hope yet.

Good point.
 
Jul 26, 2009
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Zinoviev Letter said:
It just didn't make sense that Karpets, who has been pretty explicitly told that this is his last chance to prove he can lead a team, would risk getting thrown out for an act of thuggery. The fringe GC men are well aware that they aren't really in direct competition with the contenders for overall victory.

Screwing up a corner or accidentally veering into someone, sure that can happen. But the sheer pointlessness of putting the most famous rider in the race into a ditch, deliberately, for no obvious benefit should really have made people a bit more sceptical.

Without having any better video, that is what I kept coming back to: Why would he do that? Especially to the highest profile rider in the race?
 
Gingerale said:
yeah. google translate. i'll give it a go. definitely a disadvantage not knowing spanish.

thanks anyway.

"It's been a very difficult tour in terms of setbacks, but we must be optimistic, and there is much to focus on regaining the knee when they reach the Pyrenees," said the cyclist who was glad to have a rest day tomorrow.

"The rest will come in handy, I will be good reposarme a bit," he said.


It don´t sounds too serious though. Further down he says ice and rest can do it. I think his knees is somewhat swollen or something like that.
 
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They should make a RULE of having at least 1 serious mountain stage in first 4 stages, so not everyone would try to be up front for 12 ****ing days, and you avoid **** like this.

Stage 1: Mt. Ventoux MTF, cull the pretenders, save the contenders.


EDIT: And yes, fire Zomegnan because his race is filled with incidents, but Tour is juuuuust fine. Its a God given miracle we wont have a neutralized stage on Tuesday to commemorate Vino or Testosterony or Flecha or someone else.
 
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No_Balls said:
"It's been a very difficult tour in terms of setbacks, but we must be optimistic, and there is much to focus on regaining the knee when they reach the Pyrenees," said the cyclist who was glad to have a rest day tomorrow.

"The rest will come in handy, I will be good reposarme a bit," he said.


It don´t sounds too serious though. Further down he says ice and rest can do it. I think hes knees is somewhat swollen or something like that.

We'll see on Thursday I suppose.
 
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I missed today's stage, and from reading it seems like it wasn't fun to watch. :(
Congrats to Tommy V and LuLu.

Today's stage, without seeing any videos, seems to have been ruined. Was it rider error or outside forces caused the crashes? Either way, no good.

Andy's looking good, hopefully Contador can do well so we'll still have a good show!

But I really just hope all these crashes can stop, and we can finally enjoy the racing.
 
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khardung la said:
"I was having pain in my left knee and today I hit the same knee again, but now in the internal side of it. I hope that with ice and some rest I can recover" (the journalist indicates he has a bandage there)

"I had pain during the whole stage today"

google translate was helpful, i think. but the news isn't great. he has pain and i think he means it has sharpened. but he says to stay optimistic until pyrenees. but he was dragging pain after the incident today. hm. :confused:

it's not all that optimistic, even if he uses the word :(

have to admit i love watching contador climb. that is why i watched for all 3 weeks when he came back for TdF in 2009. but he put on a show beyond expectation at giro. i'm thankful for that. more concerned for his health, as with gesink, and prefer these riders go recover and get ready for vuelta.

schlecks and evans will have to do. and this will free up time for work, lol...
 
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Gingerale said:
if you have time, could you sum that up? my spanish is worse than my dutch!

thanks.

Here you go:

AC seemed worried about the his right knee, which he hit again today in a fall he had at kilometer 84, but seemed confident in being able to recover before the arrival of the Pyrenees.

"My right knee had been bothering me and I hit it again today, now on the internal side. I hope, with ice and rest, that I can recover". Contador recognized that he had "an annoying day" after this fall that had worsened the pain.

"I have had pain during the whole stage", he said. The cyclist indicated that he snagged the handlebars on the saddle of another cyclist and that it drove him to the side of the rode where he crashed into some spectators who were on the highway.

"This is being a very complicated Tour, as fas as mishaps, you have to be optimistic, there is still a lot (of racing) left, I have to concentrate on recovering the knee for when the Pyrenees arrive", said the cyclist who was happy that tomorrow is a rest day.

"The rest day comes welcomed, I will rest a bit", he added. Contador recognized that the hard fall that the Vino had surprised him.

"It made my hair stand on end to see the cyclists on the ground, the the peloton had slowed down to what was happening, it was a big crash, they were going at a very high speed and I think the curve should have been better indicated because you couldn't see it well", he affirmed.

The Pinto explained that the large number of crashes that are happening in this Tour can be explained by the number of narrow streets being used, more than normal, and the las few days of rain.
 
Mar 10, 2009
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I like the universal hope of everyone that someone can beat Schleck. Really, it makes me feel humanity is not lost yet.
 
Jun 14, 2010
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Libertine Seguros said:
At a recent Grand Tour, after the first week being filled with crashes left right and centre, carnage, chaos, major contenders having to drop out, others losing time, some of which wasn't their fault, and a TTT skewing things, I looked at the GC after one week and announced that I was sick of the race and that the GC battle was going to be a straight two-up fight between two riders I didn't like.

That race was the 2010 Giro d'Italia.

We have hope yet.

You thought it was Evans vs Vino when Basso and Nibali were a minute down and Grappa Zoncolan and Mortirolo to come?

Though the Samu Scarponi comparison is interesting. 2nd strongest rider in the race (if Contador goes out) eliminated by a ttt (add ASO helping preffered riders in first scenario) and being eliminated from the challenge early on, then narrowly missing out on the podium because of this early head start given to opponents.
 
Feb 25, 2011
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jens_attacks said:
in those moments i felt that too.but it won't happen.i'm pretty sure alberto will abandon too but i'll still watch it,i still got basso there,i still got gilbert and tony martin,sammy and just like others said i will cheer for cadel against the schlecks.even it will be useless.
i will watch too, but not nearly as closely or avidly and definitely with a heavy heart.
 
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MonteCristo said:
Here you go:

AC seemed worried about the his right knee, which he hit again today in a fall he had at kilometer 84, but seemed confident in being able to recover before the arrival of the Pyrenees.

"My right knee had been bothering me and I hit it again today, now on the internal side. I hope, with ice and rest, that I can recover". Contador recognized that he had "an annoying day" after this fall that had worsened the pain.

"I have had pain during the whole stage", he said. The cyclist indicated that he snagged the handlebars on the saddle of another cyclist and that it drove him to the side of the rode where he crashed into some spectators who were on the highway.

"This is being a very complicated Tour, as fas as mishaps, you have to be optimistic, there is still a lot (of racing) left, I have to concentrate on recovering the knee for when the Pyrenees arrive", said the cyclist who was happy that tomorrow is a rest day.

"The rest day comes welcomed, I will rest a bit", he added. Contador recognized that the hard fall that the Vino had surprised him.

"It made my hair stand on end to see the cyclists on the ground, the the peloton had slowed down to what was happening, it was a big crash, they were going at a very high speed and I think the curve should have been better indicated because you couldn't see it well", he affirmed.

The Pinto explained that the large number of crashes that are happening in this Tour can be explained by the number of narrow streets being used, more than normal, and the las few days of rain.

Thanks for this, I have a hard time with his spanish, he speaks so quickly, I get lost trying to translate him. If he had subtitles I would be better off. Lu Lu also lost me today in his interview...

Snarky comment--I guess he didn't hear that Bob Roll already explained the reasons why there were so many crashes, not narrow roads, not weather or a combo of the two, but AC and his lack of form caused the Astana rider to clip the fan in stage one.