Tour de France 2011 Stage 9: Issoire - Saint-Flour 208 km

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MEDICAL INFO: After his crash, Alexandre Vinokourov has been transported to hospital in Aurillac. He did x-rays which revealed: A fracture of the head of the right femur. He will be transferred thus evening by helicopter to Hospital in Paris. He will have surgery tonight by a specialist, Head of Orthopedic and Traumatology service.
 
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Andy99 said:
Having just seen Johnny Hoogerlands philosophical post race interview, the guy is more than a Legend than I already thought.
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+1
Very classy guy both on and off his bike.
 
Parrulo

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Andy99 said:
Having just seen Johnny Hoogerlands philosophical post race interview, the guy is more than a Legend than I already thought.
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what did he said in his interview?
 
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roundabout said:
Bruyneel tweeted that nothing was broken. Just bruises.
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Just bruises can be a nuisance. Ask Gesink.

And I read with Klöden it was mainly his lower back as well (same as Gesink). That's where the power comes from.
 
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Parrulo said:
what did he said in his interview?
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He didn't blame the driver, said accidents happen and that he was sure the driver was sorry. Seemed very calm about the whole thing actually.
 
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ggusta said:
Is the stage still on? It's over on my TV.
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if that is how you "saw" the stage? On the TV, then it might be a good idea, and probably a treat for you to go back and see the replays. Better than staying on the forum and loose precious time. I mean, imagine you much more could watch. If you like you can even see the french TV5 at 4 pm, the Italian at 6, the English eurosport a bit later and fantasy cycling with phil and paul all night long. so much racing still left to enjoy, and all that just for stage 9. Imagine how much more you can "see" if you have DVR
 
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kanari said:
He didn't blame the driver, said accidents happen and that he was sure the driver was sorry. Seemed very calm about the whole thing actually.
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Was that right after he got off the podium, presumably before he had a chance to watch the footage?
 
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peacefultribe said:
This stage was just too much. So sad on many levels for many riders. I can't imagine how the families of these guys are holding up.
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Right now, they're probably just thanking their lucky stars. As families of professional cyclists, they'll be well aware of the sport and though there will be anger and fury, there will be relief that they're not having to go through the same as the families of Wouter Weylandt or Juan Mauricio Soler.

(There have been other major tragedies in cycling this year, of course and don't get me wrong they are just as important to honour and respect, and their families have been through hell too, but I mention those two since those played out on television and we knew what had happened, just as with Flecha being hit by the car today).
 
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Sebastian said:
I belive that he will win too. Not easy and with a less time than he gained by the 3km rule, but still he will win because Contador seems tired and all the other contenders have already crashed out or lost time by crashes.
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Andy could crash out as well! At this rate noone can tell till we reach Paris!:mad:
 
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kanari said:
He didn't blame the driver, said accidents happen and that he was sure the driver was sorry. Seemed very calm about the whole thing actually.
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He also said that he is both happy and lucky to still be here, and reminded everyone that Wouter is not with us anymore.
 
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kanari said:
He didn't blame the driver, said accidents happen and that he was sure the driver was sorry. Seemed very calm about the whole thing actually.
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He also said that Flecha apologised to him for taking him out, as if Flecha can hold any responsibility for that crash whatsoever. Wrong place, wrong time.

As he said, it's an accident. The driver is sorry, I'm sure.

Reckless and stupid, yes. But it's not like he MEANT to take those riders out. He just made a bad decision which he's paid for with his press benefits and in all likelihood his job.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
Just bruises can be a nuisance. Ask Gesink.

And I read with Klöden it was mainly his lower back as well (same as Gesink). That's where the power comes from.
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He's lucky considering the others, but I agree the lower back is bad news. I crashed out with broken bones once, but the massive bruise to my shoulder and back hurt the worst. Who will be left standing?
 
Moose McKnuckles

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Libertine Seguros said:
He also said that Flecha apologised to him for taking him out, as if Flecha can hold any responsibility for that crash whatsoever. Wrong place, wrong time.

As he said, it's an accident. The driver is sorry, I'm sure.

Reckless and stupid, yes. But it's not like he MEANT to take those riders out. He just made a bad decision which he's paid for with his press benefits and in all likelihood his job.
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The riders almost paid with their lives. That's a pretty asymmetric payoff there.
 
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Trond Vidar

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Thor also went on air saying that the peloton calmed down after the Vino-crash, and he stopped thinking about the Yellow already then. It is reported that it was on his initiative, but that could be also the angle from a fanboy Norwegian reporter on TV.

When the race got going again he felt that the chance was not there anymore.
 
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The Hitch said:
That is big news.

Do you have a source?
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I have seen the future. I see Contador riding away from the other GC contenders on at least two mountain finishes and erasing the losses he suffered in the first week. I see Contador finishing in the top five on the final ITT, with a better time than anyone else in the top 10 on GC. I see Contador wearing yellow in Paris and holding up four fingers as he crosses the line. I see pistol celebrations on the podium. I see a Court of Arbitration for Sport verdict taking it all away. I see the anguish of a million fanboys.
 
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Moose McKnuckles said:
The riders almost paid with their lives. That's a pretty asymmetric payoff there.
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But as you pointed out, there is still the possibility of prison time or at least revocation of driving licence. Anybody can make a mistake, and this just happened to be a particularly dangerous one. As Hoogerland pointed out, he didn't do it on purpose, he just acted like an idiot for a split second, and that split second bad judgement will affect him forever. He wasn't drunk, he wasn't high, he was just an idiot.

No good hanging him based on what could have happened. The decision to expel him from the Tour de France immediately is the right decision, and the French police and justice system as well as his employers and the ASO will decide what to do in due course, hopefully when the emotions of the situation have died down a bit.
 
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