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I just cruised over to roadbikereview to see what those geniuses were saying. That site is the Versus audience. Apparently, Bob Roll's junior mafia over there thinks Contador's team hates him so they're not helping him after crashes.
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Wergeland said:
I have actually, I would say my one long cut was similar to his injuries maybe slightly better it was 3 days healed and I had to get picked up.by my girlfreind 8k so I wouldn't be hopeful , I have to say I'm not Hoogie and not as tough as him.
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Did we ever get an explanation of the Thor/Canc/PhilGil conversation shortly after the Vino/JDB crash? Yellow jersey telling Leopard not to drive on?
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Andy99 said:Another shot of Johhnies leg here, if you're interested. It's gonna be sore
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg737/scaled.php?tn=0&server=737&filename=fszaz.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640
sorry it had to be done
Thor said they decided to wait until they knew the full picture. Haven't heard anything about Leopard, but Cancellara called Thor a legend on Twitter.Armchair cyclist said:
Edit: Thor was talking about himself and Gilbert as I saw it.
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I remember back in 1998 or 1999 Clavero got a nasty wound at the Giro when someone's big ring cut through his calf, and he couldn't get stitches because that would have made pedalling pretty much impossible. Maybe Hoogerland did the same. I reckon he's got enough cuts to have 43 stitches without even sewing all his cuts up.Wergeland said:
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i think hoogie may be able to keep riding but i don't think he will be able to defend his polka dot jersey unfortunately.
didn't cunego crashed on the first stage of the 08 vuelta, got 20 stitches in his knee and still rode the entire vuelta? ofc he wasn't able to do anything amazing i remember him being on a break on the third week dropping the break companions and then being caught on the flat by the favourites like if he was an amateur.
didn't cunego crashed on the first stage of the 08 vuelta, got 20 stitches in his knee and still rode the entire vuelta? ofc he wasn't able to do anything amazing i remember him being on a break on the third week dropping the break companions and then being caught on the flat by the favourites like if he was an amateur.
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Libertine Seguros said:
we will always disagree on what the word 'accident' means. and that is fine. like i said, i define it from a professional driver's perspective. the driver chose the bolded condition above which resulted in compromising the safety of two (of my favorite) riders. he prioritized speed and position over safety.
to me it is not an 'accident' because the results were highly predictable and preventable. even if he didn't say to himself "hmmm... i think i will take out two of the non-frenchies from the break with my car," any reasonable person could have predicted this as a possible result of his actions and that is unacceptable.
THEN, when the **** hit the fan, he chose to hit a person instead of an inanimate object, prioritizing his own safety over the safety of an innocent bystander. that is not quite as low as humanity gets, but it's close.
Andy99 said:Another shot of Johhnies leg here, if you're interested. It's gonna be sore
http://desmond.yfrog.com/Himg737/scaled.php?tn=0&server=737&filename=fszaz.jpg&xsize=640&ysize=640
oh nasty
Hoogerland
gotta love what he said too.
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Agree. You don't accidentally ignore a direct order from the officials. The driver was told to stay behind, he chose not to. A choice that injured two riders, ruined their chances, risked their lives. Hoogerland will be in a lot of pain for the next days, Fletca probably too. And for what? To protect the chrome on a shiny car and get to the finish line in time.
jh is a class act, and it's this type of action/outlook that make for the great inspirations on the tour and make it such a pleasure to watch.
the crash may have been an accident, but it was reckless and negligent, and i hope it will be treated as a criminal matter.
i was wondering why klodi lost time today. then i got home and saw the posts about his injury. i am sooooo bummed. i really wanted to see what he and/or horner could do this year riding for themselves. no one wants to crash out or ride injured, and i particularly feel for the older riders for whom this might be a last tour or last chance at glory.
not a fan of vino, but really hated to see him go out this way. similarly not a contador fan, but i want him to be able to defend in good shape (and get dropped hopefully). for what they do to get there, they all deserve to ride at their best.
in the midst of the carnage, i found jh's reminder of how lucky they are to be alive really touching.
the crash may have been an accident, but it was reckless and negligent, and i hope it will be treated as a criminal matter.
i was wondering why klodi lost time today. then i got home and saw the posts about his injury. i am sooooo bummed. i really wanted to see what he and/or horner could do this year riding for themselves. no one wants to crash out or ride injured, and i particularly feel for the older riders for whom this might be a last tour or last chance at glory.
not a fan of vino, but really hated to see him go out this way. similarly not a contador fan, but i want him to be able to defend in good shape (and get dropped hopefully). for what they do to get there, they all deserve to ride at their best.
in the midst of the carnage, i found jh's reminder of how lucky they are to be alive really touching.
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Such a ****ty stage. Everything I would express has no doubt already been said, but ****.. This Tour has been terrible.
Nice to see Voeckler in yellow, Hoogie in polka-dots and Gilbert extending his points lead anyway.
Yeah lets hope his mountain form is good.
Nice to see Voeckler in yellow, Hoogie in polka-dots and Gilbert extending his points lead anyway.
Moose McKnuckles said:
Yeah lets hope his mountain form is good.
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luckyboy said:
It's been established by the testimony of both riders that it was an accident. Karpets had said previously that he had caused the crash, but it was likely due to misunderstanding the connotations of the question he had been asked, as both seemed to agree that their bikes had got entangled and caused the crash inadvertently.
It seems very strange; Karpets doesn't have much in the way of previous like this, and stands to gain pretty much nothing from it, but everything to lose if he were to be ejected.
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jobiwan said:Either way, that one close up video doesn't look good at all!
i think he may have just got annoyed, lost his head and flicked him.
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