Tour de France 2015 stage 20: Modane - Alpe d'Huez

[Fight.The.Power]

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steepest part of alpe is at the start. if quintana wants to isolate froome, he will have to attack there.

It's essential that Nairo gaps Froome early on especially if there is a head wind . . .

 

[MikeTichondrius]

This is going to be about the battle for KOM and podium now. Froome has his doms with him, They'll probably go 1/3 the way into Alpe, minimum. And that's if you consider that Porte is spent already. I actually think Froome won't get the win, Geniez can carry the attack to the end I think (pretty brutal really). So if he can't get there it'll probably be a very controlled race behind...

 

[franic]

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I thought you guys were cycling fans. Mahoric (sp) used the technique to win the under 23 world championship. Then a bunch of people started using the technique. Literally dozens. I remember Cameron Wurf using it in a leadout to a sprint in Turkey

Now that you tell me, I remember also about Mahoric. To be fair I think Pancani and Martinello (Italian TV commentators) were talking about something like that some days ago, but I was not listening carefully to them.

 

[SeriousSam]

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steepest part of alpe is at the start. if quintana wants to isolate froome, he will have to attack there.

It's essential that Nairo gaps Froome early on especially if there is a head wind . . .

Yes, that would be optimal for Froome. With a headwind, he'll conserve massive energy sitting behind Richie, then he goes and vrooms right past the struggling Colombian


The GC battle is over. Nairo should try his best to win the stage.

 

[Big Doopie]

if quintana doesn't win this tour, i cannot see him ever winning. there has never been a tour with fewer TT kms and so benefitting a climber.

the only way would be if prudhomme decided to turn the tdf into the ridiculous vuelta one year with 13 MTFs.

 

[yespatterns]

Jens and Phil.can't seem to grasp that lower rotational weight re. rims could justify a bike change... Facepalm

 

[bassano]

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no, wait - there are constant interruptions: phil and paul, which is why my pick for stage winner every day is "mute."

You are lucky you do not need to listen czech TV , crap they are saying is off topic or totall oposite what you see there because they have no clue whats going on there

 

[difdauf]

Geniez is good but i fear he won't make it.

 

[djpbaltimore]

SKY is the only team with the numbers to drill it in the valley and bring Geniez within 3 min before the climb. But will they want to?

 

[Simurgh]

That british eurosport commentator really needs to learn a bit French

 

[Ramira]

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SKY is the only team with the numbers to drill it in the valley and bring Geniez within 3 min before the climb. But will they want to?

Navardauskas is currently working as well. And remember Geniez is having to spend a lot of energy in the valley as well. If Quintana goes all out 4 minutes should be well within his range.

 

[Lyon]

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That british eurosport commentator really needs to learn a bit French

Silver plate?

 

[bassano]

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if quintana doesn't win this tour, i cannot see him ever winning. there has never been a tour with fewer TT kms and so benefitting a climber.

the only way would be in prudhomme decided to turn the tdf into the ridiculous vuelta one year with 13 MTFs.

doubt about that next year, they are usually making tour suitable for last winner, like this year for Nibs and 2012 for Evans, next yeat will be 50+km ITT and some longer TTT because of SKY
some exception was 2013 beacuse they found out 2012 was real crap

 

[djpbaltimore]

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if quintana doesn't win this tour, i cannot see him ever winning. there has never been a tour with fewer TT kms and so benefitting a climber.

the only way would be in prudhomme decided to turn the tdf into the ridiculous vuelta one year with 13 MTFs.

Considering that the young corps of French hopefuls are all TT-challenged, I think there will be a lot of future versions without too many TT kms.

 

[SeriousSam]

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if quintana doesn't win this tour, i cannot see him ever winning. there has never been a tour with fewer TT kms and so benefitting a climber.

the only way would be if prudhomme decided to turn the tdf into the ridiculous vuelta one year with 13 MTFs.

You seem to forget that he lost 1:30 through a tactical error. In a tour where he loses less than that in time trials, which is possible, he'll have as good a shot or better.

 

[Nastyy]

Pinot group has a decent gap on the peloton, he might take the stage.

 

[Lyon]

The should make an all downhill tour for Bardet.

 

[Big Doopie]

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if quintana doesn't win this tour, i cannot see him ever winning. there has never been a tour with fewer TT kms and so benefitting a climber.

the only way would be in prudhomme decided to turn the tdf into the ridiculous vuelta one year with 13 MTFs.

Considering that the young corps of French hopefuls are all TT-challenged, I think there will be a lot of future versions without too many TT kms.

good pt.

 

[difdauf]

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The should make an all downhill tour for Bardet.

+1

 

[AICA ribonucleotide]

Can we see a 39 minute Alpe d'Huez into a headwind?

 

[Inquitus]

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if quintana doesn't win this tour, i cannot see him ever winning. there has never been a tour with fewer TT kms and so benefitting a climber.

the only way would be if prudhomme decided to turn the tdf into the ridiculous vuelta one year with 13 MTFs.

You seem to forget that he lost 1:30 through a tactical error. In a tour where he loses less than that in time trials, which is possible, he'll have as good a shot or better.

Thing is he'll lose more than that in a TT heavy tour, and the cobbles and echelon stages don't really suit him either, this is likely the most suitable parcours for him for a few years.

 

[Irondan]

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Pinot group has a decent gap on the peloton, he might take the stage.

I dunno, Pinot hasn't been climbing especially well this week.

 

[MikeTichondrius]

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The should make an all downhill tour for Bardet.

I believe he won't need it in the future. Guy's the real deal.

 

[markene2]

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if quintana doesn't win this tour, i cannot see him ever winning. there has never been a tour with fewer TT kms and so benefitting a climber.

the only way would be if prudhomme decided to turn the tdf into the ridiculous vuelta one year with 13 MTFs.

You seem to forget that he lost 1:30 through a tactical error. In a tour where he loses less than that in time trials, which is possible, he'll have as good a shot or better.

I hate to say it, i only think Froome went all inn on Saint-Martin. He held back on all the other stages, we are about to get some years of Froome domination.

 

[Big Doopie]

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Can we see a 39 minute Alpe d'Huez into a headwind?

i'm confused. how can there be a headwind on a climb that is famous for having constant changes in direction?

can someone explain?