Tour de France 2017 Stage 16: Le Puy to Romans-sur-Isère

[valentius borealis]

Kittel absolutely cooked. He will be glad if he comes inside the limit today.Even if he wasn't disqualified, they would take some sprint points for sure.

Riders that are allowed to stay in the race after finishing HD lose the amount of points that are awarded for winning the stage.

 

[DNP-Old]

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Kittel is such a one tricky pony. What a farce would be seeing kittel win the green jersey

Yeah, total farce that the best sprinter in the world is going to win the green jersey. What a disgrace.

 

[Nin1388]

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Why are Quickstep riding in the group behind wasting energy over a very outside chance of getting points in an intermediate sprint especially given there is another climb for Kittel to get over. Bizarre.

What are they going to save energy for? Might as well try to get back on

Yes obviously no point saving energy when they know KIttel will win next 2 days and have no problem with time limit because he eats mountains for breakfast.

 

[Samamba]

De Gendt just reeled in by the peloton and already working, beast!

 

[ontheroad]

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De Gendt just reeled in by the peloton and already working, beast!

This man is the opposite of whatever a wheelsucker is, a workhorse.

 

[Finn84]

If my quick check is correct, Roglic is the best placed GC rider in the back group. He was 32nd before the stage.

 

[MikeTichondrius]

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Kittel is such a one tricky pony. What a farce would be seeing kittel win the green jersey

Suppose Cavendish was a shame as well?

Green jersey will always be for sprinters/puncheurs, same way the Polka dots is for climbers/escape artists. True, Sagan would probably have won it again as he's so good in both kinds of finishes - but sprinting wise Kittel is bounds ahead of everyone else in this TDF. With how dominant he's been in sprints it's ridiculous not to recognize his worth, even if you don't like him.

 

[HelloDolly]

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Bennet must be ill or something?

Or maybe showing the difference between a 3 week GT and a shorter stage race

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Bennett is confirmed ill by his team. So..

 

[DNP-Old]

Barguil is such a one tricky pony. What a farce would be seeing Barguil win the polka dot jersey.

 

[DNP-Old]

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Bennet must be ill or something?

Or maybe showing the difference between a 3 week GT and a shorter stage race

No, he is ill. Already was the case last Sunday where he said hanging on cost him ''a few years of his life''.

 

[ontheroad]

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Why are Quickstep riding in the group behind wasting energy over a very outside chance of getting points in an intermediate sprint especially given there is another climb for Kittel to get over. Bizarre.

What are they going to save energy for? Might as well try to get back on

But the chances of them getting back on are absolutely minimal. I could understand it if Kittel was neck and neck in points with Matthews scrapping for every point but he should win the jersey anyway provided he gets to Paris.

 

[Eclipse]

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Barguil is such a one tricky pony. What a farce would be seeing Barguil win the polka dot jersey.

Where on earth does this comment come from?

 

[portugal11]

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Kittel is such a one tricky pony. What a farce would be seeing kittel win the green jersey

Suppose Cavendish was a shame as well?

Green jersey will always be for sprinters/puncheurs, same way the Polka dots is for climbers/escape artists. True, Sagan would probably have won it again as he's so good in both kinds of finishes - but sprinting wise Kittel is bounds ahead of everyone else in this TDF. With how dominant he's been in sprints it's ridiculous not to recognize his worth, even if you don't like him.

He can't follow a peloton in a one km climb with 5%. Cav is much more versatile than kittel. Cav is a milan san remo's winner

 

[Escarabajo]

For this type a profile this is hard racing. Might make tough for tomorrow.

 

[portugal11]

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Barguil is such a one tricky pony. What a farce would be seeing Barguil win the polka dot jersey.

Where on earth does this comment come from?

Lack of maturity

 

[Samamba]

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Bennet must be ill or something?

Or maybe showing the difference between a 3 week GT and a shorter stage race

He's not even in de Kittel group, thats not normal.

 

[bob.a.feet]

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Barguil is such a one tricky pony. What a farce would be seeing Barguil win the polka dot jersey.

Where on earth does this comment come from?

It's sarcasm

 

[Eagle]

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Why are Quickstep riding in the group behind wasting energy over a very outside chance of getting points in an intermediate sprint especially given there is another climb for Kittel to get over. Bizarre.

What are they going to save energy for? Might as well try to get back on

But the chances of them getting back on are absolutely minimal. I could understand it if Kittel was neck and neck in points with Matthews scrapping for every point but he should win the jersey anyway provided he gets to Paris.

They should at least stay racing until the gap goes out to 2:30 - 3 mins, plenty could happen to help them back on

 

[glassmoon]

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Bennet must be ill or something?

Or maybe showing the difference between a 3 week GT and a shorter stage race

He's not even in de Kittel group, thats not normal.

Bennett's ill.
Cink may be showing the 3rd week fatigue. Def not used to it.

 

[Samamba]

Over & out for Kittel.

 

[MikeTichondrius]

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Kittel is such a one tricky pony. What a farce would be seeing kittel win the green jersey

Suppose Cavendish was a shame as well?

Green jersey will always be for sprinters/puncheurs, same way the Polka dots is for climbers/escape artists. True, Sagan would probably have won it again as he's so good in both kinds of finishes - but sprinting wise Kittel is bounds ahead of everyone else in this TDF. With how dominant he's been in sprints it's ridiculous not to recognize his worth, even if you don't like him.

He can't follow a peloton in a one km climb with 5%. Cav is much more versatile than kittel. Cav is a milan san remo's winner

Real undeserving sprinters don't finish GTs, therefore they don't win the points jersey - Cipo was the best example.

Kittel is crap up climbs. Nobody's disputing that. But he'll get over them, finish half an hour down, then get to the Champs and blow everyone out of the water. Matthews could be a proper contender, but would you give it to him after winning an uphill finish and losing every other sprint badly to Kittel? Is he more deserving? Who would be at this stage?

 

[DNP-Old]

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Barguil is such a one tricky pony. What a farce would be seeing Barguil win the polka dot jersey.

Where on earth does this comment come from?

Look on the previous page. Some low IQ comment that it would be a farce if Kittel won green because he is by far the best sprinter. :lol:

 

[Maaaaaaaarten]

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Barguil is such a one tricky pony. What a farce would be seeing Barguil win the polka dot jersey.

Except he isn't. He's a decent climber, but he's also got good endurance to race in the break all day, he's got enough tactical nous and power on the flat to jump with the early break and he's got a decent sprint to finish it off against other riders in the break. Just because he sucks at TT, doesn't mean he can't do anything but climb.

What annoys me most about Kittel is his pathetic endurance. Cycling is supposed to be an endurance sport, but whenever he has to put in the slightest amount of work outside of the sprint or a short prologue, he fails spectacularly. He can piss off to the track already as far as I'm concerned, if he can't put in an effort of more than a few minutes.

 

[portugal11]

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Kittel is such a one tricky pony. What a farce would be seeing kittel win the green jersey

Suppose Cavendish was a shame as well?

Green jersey will always be for sprinters/puncheurs, same way the Polka dots is for climbers/escape artists. True, Sagan would probably have won it again as he's so good in both kinds of finishes - but sprinting wise Kittel is bounds ahead of everyone else in this TDF. With how dominant he's been in sprints it's ridiculous not to recognize his worth, even if you don't like him.

He can't follow a peloton in a one km climb with 5%. Cav is much more versatile than kittel. Cav is a milan san remo's winner

Real undeserving sprinters don't finish GTs, therefore they don't win the points jersey - Cipo was the best example.

Kittel is crap up climbs. Nobody's disputing that. But he'll get over them, finish half an hour down, then get to the Champs and blow everyone out of the water. Matthews could be a proper contender, but would you give it to him after winning an uphill finish and losing every other sprint badly to Kittel? Is he more deserving? Who would be at this stage?

For me only sagan deserves to win the green jersey. If not sagan, has to be cav who is the best sprinter of all times. With them in the race, kittel would have struggled to win 3 stages