Tour de France 2017 Stage 20:Marseille > Marseille22.5KM

[burning]

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Sky screwed Landa by making Kwiatkowski pull on the way to Foix. Big shame. Froome's mvp's both get no reward today.

And the scary thing is that Henao was terrible, Nieve broke down in the 3rd week and that Thomas crashed out, and still it was never in doubt.

Also have the feeling Dumoulin would have utterly crushed everyone today.

Annihalation nation

We may find out next year, if the ASO have the balls to put decent ITT's in the route, doubt it with Bardet being there.

They will not put any decent ITT's with french GC riders being so consistently godawful

 

[bigcog]

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Bardet podiums because the jury are a bunch of idiots who didn't give him the 20 second penalty he should have gotten.

Yes, very good point !

 

[luckyboy]

Big question is what was Uran doing the past two years?

 

[elfed68]

Do the results stand after today for everyone, or just yellow Jersey? I'm thinking Bardet and Landa's one second difference.

 

[Billie]

Bora somehow won two stages this Tour. Not bad considering how it went for them.

 

[movingtarget]

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Sky screwed Landa by making Kwiatkowski pull on the way to Foix. Big shame. Froome's mvp's both get no reward today.

And the scary thing is that Henao was terrible, Nieve broke down in the 3rd week and that Thomas crashed out, and still it was never in doubt.

Also have the feeling Dumoulin would have utterly crushed everyone today.

Annihalation nation

We may find out next year, if the ASO have the balls to put decent ITT's in the route, doubt it with Bardet being there.

They will be longer than this year I think but also with more MTFs.

 

[Climber123]

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Man Contador was fastest on the climb by 8 seconds! https://twitter.com/velofacts/status/888783102604185600

Great effort, but then blew up badly in the last few K's. He just doesn't seem to have the endurance any more.

Don't think he blew. He was 13s behind at the first split so 21s in last part which was more technical isn't a huge surprise.

Yes that's a fair point, either way a super TT by Alberto, will he ride the Vuelta?

Not decided yet as far as I know but latest I've heard seems to indicate he isn't likely to start

He has to ride the Vuelta, his form is moving in the right direction. The other GC guys except Froome finished poorly today. It is possible that he started the Tour too undercooked.

 

[Carols]

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This time 6 years ago at 26, Chris Froome had the Anatomic Jock race and a 4th overall in the Herald Sun Tour on his palmares. Sky were offering his services to other teams. Now he is a 4 time tour winner of the tour. Has there ever been a more meteoric rise in the sport.

NO and I've been watching a Long time.....

 

[PremierAndrew]

Wonder if Froome would've won today with his Sky skinsuit

 

[Nin1388]

Anyway... who will be the favorites for the Vuelta apart from Nibali? Is Froome riding? Contador?

Nibali / Froome/Contador/ 2 Yates / Chavez /Zakarin
My dark horse are Soler and Lopez.

Dumoulin/ Quintana not riding
Valverde not sure

 

[Lupi33x]

maybe the boos cost him that vital second

 

[hrotha]

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Wonder if Froome would've won today with his Sky skinsuit

Of course, since those skinsuits make you eleventy seconds faster per meter.

 

[Richeypen]

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Bardet podiums because the jury are a bunch of idiots who didn't give him the 20 second penalty he should have gotten.

Yep, there will be pats on backs all round for that decision.

 

[Pricey_sky]

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Man Contador was fastest on the climb by 8 seconds! https://twitter.com/velofacts/status/888783102604185600

Great effort, but then blew up badly in the last few K's. He just doesn't seem to have the endurance any more.

Don't think he blew. He was 13s behind at the first split so 21s in last part which was more technical isn't a huge surprise.

Yes that's a fair point, either way a super TT by Alberto, will he ride the Vuelta?

Not decided yet as far as I know but latest I've heard seems to indicate he isn't likely to start

I suppose if his plan next year is the Giro it makes sense to rest up and be fresh for the start of next year.

 

[burning]

JV talking is totally unbearable, I hope that he just disappears completely

 

[movingtarget]

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This time 6 years ago at 26, Chris Froome had the Anatomic Jock race and a 4th overall in the Herald Sun Tour on his palmares. Sky were offering his services to other teams. Now he is a 4 time tour winner of the tour. Has there ever been a more meteoric rise in the sport.

NO and I've been watching a Long time.....

Maybe the second place in the 2011 Vuelta made them take notice.

 

[Lupi33x]

Would be better to finish a TT in an athletics stadium, might be able to squeeze a proper velo track in there and give the crowd a reason to be there

barely 5k inside

 

[bigcog]

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Sky screwed Landa by making Kwiatkowski pull on the way to Foix. Big shame. Froome's mvp's both get no reward today.

And the scary thing is that Henao was terrible, Nieve broke down in the 3rd week and that Thomas crashed out, and still it was never in doubt.

Also have the feeling Dumoulin would have utterly crushed everyone today.

Annihalation nation

We may find out next year, if the ASO have the balls to put decent ITT's in the route, doubt it with Bardet being there.

They will be longer than this year I think but also with more MTFs.

Only if they think Froome is on the decline ..

 

[benzwire]

Bardet has to stick with Landa at the finish tomorrow so that there are no time splits in the peloton at the finish. One second due to a split at the finish can easily happen. Not likely, but it's still possible.

 

[pitchnduel]

Just noticed that today Sky lost both the stage win and the 3rd place of the gc by one second.

They must be utterly devastated

At least they have the team classification to soften the blow

 

[Lupi33x]

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[Blanco]

I love watching the tour de france. I just wish the world tour teams had a required budget range so that all teams were competing with same budget. The Tour de France especially looks like a stage race that greatly depends on a really strong team overall in order to go for gc. I applaud Chris Froome's accomplishments hugely, but his team as a whole is so much stronger than the others, and their budget is as well.

Sky's budget is similar to Movistar and other teams aren't far off it.

It's not even close, Movistar barely have half a budget Sky has

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

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Sky screwed Landa by making Kwiatkowski pull on the way to Foix. Big shame. Froome's mvp's both get no reward today.

And the scary thing is that Henao was terrible, Nieve broke down in the 3rd week and that Thomas crashed out, and still it was never in doubt.

I never had the feeling this was outside of Froome's control.

Also have the feeling Dumoulin would have utterly crushed everyone today.

Tom is not in the Tour, just pipe it down please, you sound like a broken record!

Pff I only mentioned him like once or twice. Not half as bad als Valv. Piti repeating everyday that Valverde would have won the Tour. And I didn't hear you complaining then. So do not be a hypocrite

 

[Lupi33x]

Just noticed that today Sky lost both the stage win and the 3rd place of the gc by one second.

They must be utterly devastated

At least they have the team classification to soften the blow

do I need to telegraph my sarcasm any more

 

[Escarabajo]

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Anyway... who will be the favorites for the Vuelta apart from Nibali? Is Froome riding? Contador?

The odds show Froome as the favorite to win. Then Contador and Nibali very close. Outsiders they have Zacarin Chaves and Lopez.