Tour de France 2018, stage 1

[rick james]

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WTH?
The finish result was completely expected, but the GC picture!?

It helps. As Froome has to attack but Thomas is ahead so it’s going to get a little nasty.

we don't know of froome has the legs to attack, so you wet dream is on hold

 

[pitchnduel]

Sagan in green tommorow

 

[Inquitus]

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So Froome might not even be in yellow after the TTT

Gaviara, GVA or Thomas

or TJVG!

 

[thehog]

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WTH?
The finish result was completely expected, but the GC picture!?

It helps. As Froome has to attack but Thomas is ahead so it’s going to get a little nasty.

we don't know of froome has the legs to attack, so you wet dream is on hold

Don’t you mean the lungs?

 

[yaco]

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One has to ask the question; Why GVA and TVG are in the front group when their leader Porte is held up in a crash ?

They want the yellow jersey after the TTT.

That is my thought - Feel Porte doesn't enjoy full team support.

 

[tobydawq]

Absolutely horrible sprint by Degenkolb. He is just completely past it.

 

[Akuryo]

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Absolutely horrible sprint by Degenkolb. He is just completely past it.

He beat Fuglsang, Majka and Nibali. :lol:

 

[Koronin]

Movistar did send Bennati and Amador to help Quintana. Valverde and Landa were the only two Movistar riders to finish in the lead group. They were NOT going to send either of them back to help and allow the two of them to save time. They are after all also leaders for this race. As for BMC I think they left GVA and Tejay in the front group because they really want the yellow after the TTT and expect to win the TTT. So leave them there also if Porte has more bad luck they'll want to keep Tejay in position to at least try to get the best overall GC he can get. With Movistar as long as Valverde doesn't loose time in the first week, they can expect a top 10 GC finish for him.

 

[yaco]

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Movistar did send Bennati and Amador to help Quintana. Valverde and Landa were the only two Movistar riders to finish in the lead group. They were NOT going to send either of them back to help and allow the two of them to save time. They are after all also leaders for this race. As for BMC I think they left GVA and Tejay in the front group because they really want the yellow after the TTT and expect to win the TTT. So leave them there also if Porte has more bad luck they'll want to keep Tejay in position to at least try to get the best overall GC he can get. With Movistar as long as Valverde doesn't loose time in the first week, they can expect a top 10 GC finish for him.

Winning yellow for a day or two ( which is no certainty ) is more important than supporting your leader - No wonder BMC is folding.

 

[Carols]

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Movistar did send Bennati and Amador to help Quintana. Valverde and Landa were the only two Movistar riders to finish in the lead group. They were NOT going to send either of them back to help and allow the two of them to save time. They are after all also leaders for this race. As for BMC I think they left GVA and Tejay in the front group because they really want the yellow after the TTT and expect to win the TTT. So leave them there also if Porte has more bad luck they'll want to keep Tejay in position to at least try to get the best overall GC he can get. With Movistar as long as Valverde doesn't loose time in the first week, they can expect a top 10 GC finish for him.

Winning yellow for a day or two ( which is no certainty ) is more important than supporting your leader - No wonder BMC is folding.

I thought they were folding because the team owner died. All the riders will be looking out for themselves and finding a new team I guess!

 

[Koronin]

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Movistar did send Bennati and Amador to help Quintana. Valverde and Landa were the only two Movistar riders to finish in the lead group. They were NOT going to send either of them back to help and allow the two of them to save time. They are after all also leaders for this race. As for BMC I think they left GVA and Tejay in the front group because they really want the yellow after the TTT and expect to win the TTT. So leave them there also if Porte has more bad luck they'll want to keep Tejay in position to at least try to get the best overall GC he can get. With Movistar as long as Valverde doesn't loose time in the first week, they can expect a top 10 GC finish for him.

Winning yellow for a day or two ( which is no certainty ) is more important than supporting your leader - No wonder BMC is folding.

I thought they were folding because the team owner died. All the riders will be looking out for themselves and finding a new team I guess!

This is what I thought as well. Although rumor is Tejay is headed to Slipstream.

 

[GuyIncognito]

Daniel Benson was saying yesterday that he was told Ochowicz found something, to be announced soon

 

[huge]

"Use the Force, Vincenzo!" (Brent Copeland from the team car 5km from the finish)

 

[Robert5091]

51 seconds down on Uran? Bet Sky are glad the TTT is still to come.

 

[Escarabajo]

What Movistar did is OK. What BMC did is ridiculous!
TJ? seriously?

 

[Robert5091]

Froomes crash from bike camera on rider behind Froome - does not look good with that post
https://twitter.com/LeTour/status/1015617032967028738

 

[Leinster]

TJ has one more top 5 GC finish in the Tour than Porte. Send him back and, best case scenario, Richie finishes 10s-15s closer to the peloton, and Tejay loses 40 seconds.

Should Sky have sent Thomas back?

 

[postmanhat]

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I hate when things like these do so much in determining the overall.

Unfortunately, yes.

Normally I'd agree, but it could do everyone a favour in this race. Once Thomas falls off tomorrow or the next day, Sky will have to change tactics, and we'll be relieved of the burden of watching their train dominate things from stage 10 onwards.

Yates could make a lot of the time back in the TTT. Quintana's probably already lost the leadership at Movistar?

 

[tobydawq]

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TJ has one more top 5 GC finish in the Tour than Porte. Send him back and, best case scenario, Richie finishes 10s-15s closer to the peloton, and Tejay loses 40 seconds.

Should Sky have sent Thomas back?

Thomas and Porte are good now, Tejay was good three years ago.

 

[TourOfSardinia]

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Froomes crash from bike camera on rider behind Froome - does not look good with that post
https://twitter.com/LeTour/status/1015617032967028738

So it was Rick Zabel that done the deed.

 

[Valv.Piti]

BMC....

Too bad for Nairo, but Froome and Porte also lost out, so its not that bad I guess. Great win from Gaviria as expected!

 

[Leinster]

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TJ has one more top 5 GC finish in the Tour than Porte. Send him back and, best case scenario, Richie finishes 10s-15s closer to the peloton, and Tejay loses 40 seconds.

Should Sky have sent Thomas back?

Thomas and Porte are good now, Tejay was good three years ago.

On his last time out riding the Tour for GC, TJ was in the top 3 going into the final week. Even with Porte still as their leader, it makes complete tactical sense for Sky to keep TJ as high up the GC rankings for as long as practical/possible.

Put another way, if TJ was strong enough to be the difference in closing up the 52 seconds Richie lost today, he should be the team’s GC leader.

 

[rick james]

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Froomes crash from bike camera on rider behind Froome - does not look good with that post
https://twitter.com/LeTour/status/1015617032967028738

So it was Rick Zabel that done the deed.

that's worse than Sagan and Cav last year....Zabel should be getting sent home

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

Are you shitting me. He was just trying to keep his balance when Froome tried to get past.
Froome's fault for going places he shouldn't be.

 

[DNP-Old]

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Froomes crash from bike camera on rider behind Froome - does not look good with that post
https://twitter.com/LeTour/status/1015617032967028738

So it was Rick Zabel that done the deed.

that's worse than Sagan and Cav last year....Zabel should be getting sent home

Mr. Objectivity speaking here.