Tour de France 2019 stage 17: Pont du Gard > Gap 200 km

[Hayabusa]

I think there are many reasons the UCI theoretically would want a French winner but that doesn't necessarily mean that it would be under a French influence. Not that I think that occurred here at all.

Besides your first paragraph points exactly to what you mean in the second.

 

[wheresmybrakes]

So using UCI regulations got those 2 got thrown out the race but MAL got away with more or less bludgeoning a fan at the side of the road in the GIRO. They're trying their best for a French winner in this race :lol: :lol: :lol:

You do know the juries are made up of different people (none of them French at the Tour), and that rules are open to personal interpretation? It's not at all remarkable that different juries have different criteria.

I guess it's easier and more convenient to blame some conspiracy theory or THE FRENCH rather than ask why Rowe and Martin did what they did.

Silly me not realising that one jury could quite happily allow a rider to punch a fan at the side of the road without repercussions and another jury to throw 2 riders out the race for playing handbags. Personal interpretation my ar$e!

 

[RedheadDane]

So using UCI regulations got those 2 got thrown out the race but MAL got away with more or less bludgeoning a fan at the side of the road in the GIRO. They're trying their best for a French winner in this race :lol: :lol: :lol:

While I think this was a bit harsh, I also think that riders should be allowed to bludgeon idiot fans as much as they like. :twisted:

 

[fauniera]

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Fair decision. Rowe first did a body check on Kruijswijk and then tried to hit Martin. Also Martin shouldn't try to push Rowe into the crowd and is it fair that he is disqualified.

Agreed. Correct decision. Very dangerous what Rowe is doing there and Tony shouldn't react the way he reacts.

 

[Andy262]

Surely a couple of hefty fines should have resolved this incident.

 

[Inquitus]

Aye complete overreaction by the Comms, stupid OTT decision, clearly done with an eye on a potential French winner.

 

[spalco]

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Fair decision. Rowe first did a body check on Kruijswijk and then tried to hit Martin. Also Martin shouldn't try to push Rowe into the crowd and is it fair that he is disqualified.

If Martin had wanted to do that he would have done so.

Normal race-scuffle that didn't have any consequences.

 

[hrotha]

Silly me not realising that one jury could quite happily allow a rider to punch a fan at the side of the road without repercussions and another jury to throw 2 riders out the race for playing handbags. Personal interpretation my ar$e!

Surely then the problem is that MAL wasn't DQ'ed, not that Martin and Rowe were.

Regardless, while MAL wasn't kicked out of the race for that (I guess they wanted a French winner too), other people have been. Cherry-picking your precedent is not so great, especially if the precedent was not exactly the same thing.

 

[Eyeballs Out]

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Aye complete overreaction by the Comms, stupid OTT decision, clearly done with an eye on a potential French winner.

If Luke Rowe was going to stop Alaphilippe or Pinot then Ineo$ would have hit a new level of comedy

 

[More Strides than Rides]

I did not see the stage. Is there a video of the incident?

NM: https://twitter.com/laflammerouge16/status/1154087083977465856?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fd-35843051201300482870.ampproject.net%2F1907152257550%2Fframe.html

 

[Avoriaz]

Loved Jalaphilippe's comment that they were fighting to get to the front because they were worried he would attack

 

[Midnightfright]

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Loved Jalaphilippe's comment that they were fighting to get to the front because they were worried he would attack

I loved that he stepped in a calmed them down. I suspect he is right and that is why they where fighting.

Of course it was harsh but the world seen it and I can understand why is was done. For me it was just polton hardmen battling. Nothing outrageous

 

[RedheadDane]

Statement from Rowe and Martin

 

[Midnightfright]

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Statement from Rowe and Martin

You would think they had committed a severe crime with the sombre tone

 

[Red Rick]

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Statement from Rowe and Martin

Just put em in an octagon

 

[RedheadDane]

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Statement from Rowe and Martin

You would think they had committed a severe crime with the sombre tone

I was mostly focused on the fact that they were making the statement together, and clearly not about to break into a serious fight.

 

[Midnightfright]

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Statement from Rowe and Martin

You would think they had committed a severe crime with the sombre tone

I was mostly focused on the fact that they were making the statement together, and clearly not about to break into a serious fight.

Oh yeah there is absolutely no ill will. As I touched upon in a previous post this is very much part of both those guys roles in team.

 

[RedheadDane]

Here's a joint written statement.

 

[Laplaz]

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Aye complete overreaction by the Comms, stupid OTT decision, clearly done with an eye on a potential French winner.

To those speculating that decision to eject Rowe and Martin was made to benefit Alaphilippe and/or Pinot: UCI race jury is a five-person panel made of commissaires from five different nations, led by an Italian. One French juror; others from Spain, Belgium, and Canada. #TDF2019
https://t.co/RAgvYouCKo

 

[rick james]

Jesus Christ they’ve had a wee scuffle at a bike race....the over reaction is unreal, you’d think they tried to murder each other

 

[Mayo from Mayo]

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Here's a joint written statement.

Disingenuous statement. Of course it disadvantaged another rider, and not any other rider but the maillot jaune. Alaphillipe rightly judged that the shenannigans were caused by Ineos and Lotto Jumbo defending against him attacking. For the safety of the peleton he told them he would not attack.

 

[Midnightfright]

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Here's a joint written statement.

Disingenuous statement. Of course it disadvantaged another rider, and not any other rider but the maillot jaune. Alaphillipe rightly judged that the shenannigans were caused by Ineos and Lotto Jumbo defending against him attacking. For the safety of the peleton he told them he would not attack.

I'm not sure how it disadvantaged Alaphillipe....

There isnt a hope in hell he was attacking there

 

[hrotha]

Why not? Today's stage was the kind of hilly terrain he's supposed to excel at, he's a much better descender than basically all his rivals and he needs all the time he can get.

 

[Speedzero]

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Statement from Rowe and Martin

You would think they had committed a severe crime with the sombre tone

I was mostly focused on the fact that they were making the statement together, and clearly not about to break into a serious fight.

Oh yeah there is absolutely no ill will. As I touched upon in a previous post this is very much part of both those guys roles in team.

I mean, they're both hoping to persuade the jury to change its mind (unlikely) or minimize any other consequences, so of course they're going to make nice, regardless of how they really feel.

I still want to know why Luke moved across and put his shoulder into Steven K, which is what started the whole thing.

 

[Mayo from Mayo]

Exactly. (meant for hrotha above)