Tour de France 2020 | Stage 12 (Chauvigny - Sarran, 218 km)

[Broccolidwarf]

That is the easiest gap Burgaudeau has closed his entire career, he was not in front once

 

[BlueRoads]

That is the easiest gap Burgaudeau has closed his entire career, he was not in front once

he looks spent anyway

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Now that Asgreen is across this just became a harder day in the saddle for Bora. Very substantial horsepower in that group even though there’s little climbing ability.

 

[ngent41]

That is the easiest gap Burgaudeau has closed his entire career, he was not in front once

he didn't hit the front, but i'm not so sure he found it easy to sit on asgreens wheel

 

[Broccolidwarf]

he looks spent anyway

Gotta be demoralizing

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Jumbo joining the chase now?

 

[SKSemtex]

Sagan can’t avoid this year’s Giro. He got paid serious money to ride it

I know. But he is not obliged to win the jersey there I think.

I have started to think of Martin as like a Hitler of the peloton. But I'm wondering if I'm being a little harsh on Hitler, as he did sort of build the Autobahn.

By the way, your signature

Have not you heard that Hitler's autobahn is a myth?

 

[Broccolidwarf]

With only 2 minutes to the break, when we get into the hills in 5-10 k, I think we will see a flurry of attacks again.

 

[Keram]

Bora really trust Sagan here. But they need to try when QS didnt allow him to break. Sagan need his best game to deliver here. He is improving but will be though.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

With only 2 minutes to the break, when we get into the hills in 5-10 k, I think we will see a flurry of attacks again.

presumably everyone who thinks they can win but doesn’t think they can climb with Roglic will be nailed to Sagan’s wheel. It will be interesting to see how DQS play it as their big lumps drop away

 

[topcat]

Now that Sagan is the underdog for green, I'm cheering for him. I think he'll find a way. Kelly would have taken the shoulder and still won.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Is the consensus that the Sagan/GVA types need to be already clear before the last climb or they get smashed by the GC guys trying for bonus seconds?

 

[Libertine Seguros]

If we look at dome teams ds probably stands for dopesmoker...

 

[sir fly]

If not allowed in the breakaway, heavy-hitters shall sort the stage out later on.
Somewhere around the last categorized climbs.
That seems to be the case.

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Gap drifting up a little

 

[Eyeballs Out]

I would guess Plan A for Bora is Schachmann, not Sagan

 

[Jagartrott]

A few scenarios:

• hard, but not super-hard and Bora stays in control: Sagan gets to the finish with a big group, but the major sprinters are dropped - several other pairs of fast legs still there though (Van Aert, Boasson Hagen, Impey, etc.)
• hard, then the likes of Alaphilippe, Bettiol, Higuita attack on the steeper parts of the 2nd cat: Sagan loses touch and can only hope his team still has some guys to chase afterwards; small group up the road will fight it out for the stage victory, sizeable bunch with Sagan and all the GC guys rolls in 2 minutes later
• very hard, no team in control anymore, surprise attacks by GC guys and/or some GC guys unexpectedly struggling: probability of this happening quite low though
• the current escapees (or some, at least) make it to the end; likelihood close to zero

I think scenario two is the most likely.

 

[Red Rick]

I think if the gap is still managable before they hit the main climbs of the day some other teams that can win the stage will try to drive down the gap

 

[BlueRoads]

The outcome of this Tour could be disastrous for Bora, if Sagan does not win green and the whole team, including Schachmann, is working almost every day for him. But at least you see them at the front quite a lot.

 

[roundabout]

Is the consensus that the Sagan/GVA types need to be already clear before the last climb or they get smashed by the GC guys trying for bonus seconds?

It's still about 3 hours til they get there, but I'll make the call that the break will take the bonis

 

[Brumdog66]

Is the consensus that the Sagan/GVA types need to be already clear before the last climb or they get smashed by the GC guys trying for bonus seconds?

Shoulde be too easy for the GC guys

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Is Alaphilippe lolling about near the back with most of the rest of DQS?

 

[Red Rick]

Shoulde be too easy for the GC guys

I think they can get involved if some attackers go away, then they all follow and none of them win, and maybe one or two get caught out.

Or Dumoulin takes off while everyone's watching Roglic and Roglic is calling Nibali to ask what he must do

 

[BlueRoads]

I think Schachmann should attack with the puncheurs if they go.

 

[sir fly]

The helicopter's looking for Kermit.