Tour de France 2020 | Stage 17 (Grenoble - Méribel Col de la Loze, 170 km)

[red_flanders]

What is the OTL?

On The Limit I think...

 

[Zinoviev Letter]

Apparently Debbuschere and the Coq may be in trouble and the race centre is implying that a few other riders may be back with them, but I don’t think that includes anyone prominent

 

[gregrowlerson]

Lopez looking like he is itching to attack. Hats off to Bahrain, their effort will likely change how the last 4kms unfold, even if it might not benefit Landa.

Good call.

 

[Billie]

Didnt Gardecchia have way bigger gaps than Zonc despite everyone starting that climb together?

That stage was almost 8 hours ofcourse the gaps are bigger

 

[johnymax]

Great domestique work from Gorka Izagirre. He is the one responsible the most for MAL's victory today. Great job, Chapeau!

 

[Red Rick]

MAL winning basically tells you there were still 6% stretches between the hellish gradients

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Exactly. And actually letting your team ride like that all day requires some self judgment he apparently does not have. Not a good leader.

Have you ever done endurance sports?

Some days you just run out, and it doesn’t happen gradually, it happens suddenly, inside a minute you go from feeling fine, to feeling like crap and having no strength left.

It’s got nothing to do with leadership, or the lack thereof.

 

[red_flanders]

That's a good climb. Congrats to MAL, nicely done. Good sorting of the GC. Nothing terribly exciting but it sets up an interesting stage for tomorrow. Someone's gotta attack on that course, right?

 

[huangho]

What is the OTL?

+34:41

 

[Breezy1985]

I thought that was a great finale. The little bumps and exposed turns in the last 2km gave a great view of the fight.

And chapeau to the camera team some great shots and a good old Bertie v Andy vibe at the end

 

[Red Rick]

Have you ever done endurance sports?

Some days you just run out, and it doesn’t happen gradually, it happens suddenly, inside a minute you go from feeling fine, to feeling like crap and having no strength left.

It’s got nothing to do with leadership, or the lack thereof.

Yeah I have that sometimes

When I get out of bed

 

[Eclipse]

Because he always promises and Never delivers!

Yap. Talks a lot of good game but always manages to let people down.

Today is not laugh at Bahrain, they did their job, but it was really peak free Landa that his team tees him up the whole day and when they come to the end of their matches he meekly slips back into anonymity in the lead group and then shortly after falls out the other side.

 

[movingtarget]

Mighty win for Lopez. Carapaz was gutsy. As expected not much separating the Slovenians. Valverde was surprising. Porte just found the stage about 2 kms too far but still worked his way up GC. Good ride. Landa looked fresh and the team delivered, he just couldn't finish it off. Kuss another great ride.

 

[DFA123]

MAL has an argument for yellow battle...

Isn't he just doing what he always does? Looks absolutely amazing in one or two mountain stages every GT, but is never quite able to turn this dominance into seriously challenging for the overall win.

 

[ppanther92]

Have you ever done endurance sports?

Some days you just run out, and it doesn’t happen gradually, it happens suddenly, inside a minute you go from feeling fine, to feeling like crap and having no strength left.

It’s got nothing to do with leadership, or the lack thereof.

Sure but ot happens constantly to Landa while he himself loves to talk himself up as being super strong andblaming others.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

On The Limit I think...

”outside time limit”

 

[75Driver]

What a brutal finish. Those walls just kept coming and coming. Happy for MAL he rode great. Roglic is awesome with a great team. Overall great tour sans a couple snooze fest stages but having gaps this small at this juncture of a GT is refreshing.

 

[perico]

Going back through the results over the last two years, it’s funny that some in the media have pushed the narrative of Pogacar being a better TTer than Roglic because of 1 national championship.

Roglic put 1:30 into Tadej in the Vuelta TT last year. Before that Roglic has proven to be a world class TTer. Roglic won 4 TTs in races last year. He won 2 in 2018 and 3 in 2017.

He’s world class and has beaten Pogacar head to head on a couple of occasions. 1 victory in a national championship in their first race back after not racing for months because of a pandemic does not put them on equal footing.

 

[Logic-is-your-friend]

Wait until tomorrow for the really big gaps.

I've been thinking the same, that the consequences of today's stage might be bigger tomorrow.

 

[dgodave]

Kuss being interviewed on UK Eurosport. Looks remarkably fresh!!

No whining about being pulled back by the car. He just couldnt match Lopez. Great ride overall by him tho.

 

[Luthor]

Some people are good as leaders, some aren't. Landa is most likely in the second category.

 

[Broccolidwarf]

Sure but ot happens constantly to Landa while he himself loves to talk himself up as being super strong andblaming others.

I don’t have that impression of him, but he is not a rider I follow that closely.

 

[johnymax]

Last year's Vuelta top GC field was so weak that the top 3 of this Tour were 1st, 3rd and 4th at last years' Vuelta. I'm confused...how is this possible

 

[luckyboy]

Isn't he just doing what he always does? Looks absolutely amazing in one or two mountain stages every GT, but is never quite able to turn this dominance into seriously challenging for the overall win.

Very good result for a debut Tour, just wasn't good in Laruns. But yeah, there's no chance to catch Rog or Pog in the TT even if his TT is a lot better than last year.

 

[Big Doopie]

Were they that slight? Biggest time gaps of this Tour by quite a long way. A stage with only two climbs, MTF - these are pretty big gaps

only thing that changed was Uran fell three places.

that's it.

wow!